Traditional Muzzleloading Association
The Center of Camp => The Campfire => Topic started by: jimbowie1 on November 14, 2020, 05:52:26 PM
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HELLO,fellow skinners, just a little rant, about, changing times, Im 73 and have lived in my home for 40 years I have 40 acres, half in hay the rest in woods, with a creek, I have a small primitive camp set up for me and my old black lab, I have a 50 yard shooting range that i dont use much anymore, I have 4 horses a 1 mule and 2 dogs buried up there, [my family]. People have been moving up here in droves and have been trying to make this small town just like the city they moved from, they mostly work from home, they have suceeded to make the area around here a no shooting zone, so much for my range, and even though I have my place posted they feel free to come into my orchard, and walk my trails even after i told them i dont want anyone in here. One of them a woman said [SUE ME} as she flipped me off. Sheriff wont do anything says it is a civil matter.I have never been one to look for trouble, but I can see it coming. Im always armed, but never really had to worry about 2 legged vermin before,time,s are changing, and not for the best.
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Are you in north idaho.
I could repay your sentiment almost word for word.
Except up here if don't hear gunfire everyday then we know somethings wrong.
I feel for you my friend I truly do.
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Where 'bouts are you located JimBowie1?
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I forgot to say where im at, Im in ashford wa, 5 miles from mt rainier nat park, We always get alot of traffic up here in the summer, and mostly nat forest land but over the last few years and really in the last year people up here have sold their land and subdevided it into smaller lots, I cant blame them most are older like me and cant keep up with taking care of a big place,I will end my days here, and the property will be given to the nisqually land trust so that no one can ever build on it or change it, I have 40-50 elk in there everynight feeding on the apples sow bear and her 2 cubs also , It has been my place of refuge from all the things going bad, but now im going to have to deal with people that think they can do whatever they want.
I just wanted to say thank you to the folks that answered my post.
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I think I can speak for everyone here at the TMA,... when I say, we all sympathize with your dilemma my friend. :shake :*:
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Put up no trespassing signs and call the high sheriff when folks trespass on your land.
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I have it posted heavy, I am not very tec smart i have been trying to post pics of my place and also my muzzle loader collection but i am not as smart as this blasted machine. lol
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I have it posted heavy, I am not very tec smart i have been trying to post pics of my place and also my muzzle loader collection but i am not as smart as this blasted machine. lol
Well Joe,.... that makes two of us! :lol sign :toast :shake
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JB I replied to your PM to me have you read it?
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Sorry for your troubles! I fully understand where you're coming from. I escaped CA and live in Alaska (5.5 acres) for last 15 years. But, too many people leaving the cities to "escape" want to bring their lives n views with them ;banghead; Its happening all over the West. Even say up here. The sad joke here is if we have to go to the big city we say we are going to Los Anchorage.
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OUR ultra blue liberal has shut dow just about everything starting at noon today until dec 14th . People now being able to work from home will really change the rural areas, the cable co.s are going full tilt putting in acess to hi speed internet up here, people building houses 1 right after the other. When I bought my home 40 years ago all the roads were dirt and had names like cedar road and ranger drive now all are paved and have street #. all i can do is watch and see my taxs go way up. SAD but cant stop it.
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Part of whats sad/funny is how many of them demand we not mess up the earth then move out to the countryside, build a single family unit but tell others they should live in cities and apartment buildings????
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If y'alls land is posted all around people know it is private land upon entry. In addition if you advise them that they are trespassing they now know for sure.
It is a misdemeanor in the state. It carries a penalty of up to 12 months in jail and or a fine. The Sheriff is being a lazy ol boy by calling it a civil matter.
WA Legislation:- Criminal Code. (c) to remain in a part of the place after being requested by a person in authority to leave that part of the place. (2) A person who, without lawful excuse, trespasses on a place is guilty of an offence and is liable to imprisonment for 12 months and a fine of $12 000.
trespass - WA Legislation:- Criminal Code
If that all don't work, y'all can sit at the cross roads of the trails naked as a jay in a chair waiting for the next one to come by an tell'em they are all trespassing. :laffing
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I would think that if a person not only posted NO TRESPASSING signs - would also post under that sign the following,,, that much of your problems would be solved... Probably not all, but I expect it would go pretty far in helping out with these Trespassers...
NO TRESPASSING
A person who, without lawful excuse, trespasses on a place is guilty of an offence and is liable to imprisonment for 12 months and a fine of $12 000.
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It is a small town and everyone knows each other, we are mostly older people but that has changed in the last 2 years and younger people from the city are moving out here,they have every right to but for the most part they seem to think they can do what they want, like use bad language around kids and older people, just not the same class of people that we hoped for. My neighbors still ask me if they can go pick apples or take a walk around the pasture, even though i have told them many times to feel free to go there any time, that just the kind of people they are. Im still thinking about what I will do if i find homeless people up there, we have already had 2 protest groups up here, I guess it,s just a matter of time, I usually just carry my old 1906 22 win pump rifle with me but i added my colt king cobra, 357 to my carry gun.
THIS is neither a rant or a sypathy post it is just an old man talking to some new friends
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JB,.... since you and I are the same age, I know selling out, packing up, and moving would be an unpleasant ordeal.
But that's exactly what this old man would do! :hairy
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I would like to but, this is my home and all my critters are buried up here my life has been here and IMO there really are not many states, that are not being taken over by the same type of people taking over this one the whole west and east coast are not any place i would want to be,montana and idaho and wyoming are getting bought out fromm cal people and the price of realestate is way out of my grasp.I will stay here until my time comes to cross over. AND i will quit complaining on here, I just wanted to let out a little frustration, sorry about that.
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Yep, it's a lot different than when the Oregon governor, (who was it, Hall?) posted billboards on the California line that "Oregon is a nice place to visit, but Please don't move here..." :bl th up
But yeah, when I was in Wyoming the layers & doctors from the big cities were buying up everything around Jackson. The price of real estate and rent went astronomical. The Supervisor's Office for the Bridger-Teton National Forest was there and they finally had to move it to (I believe) Afton because the employees couldn't afford to live there. :Doh!
Thanks for the rant, though. I've been trying to convince Carol that we need to move to the Washington or Oregon East side. Maybe I should rethink that! :laffing
~Kees~
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Times truly are changing...
I just read where an out of State hunter from Colorado miss took a Big Horn Ram (here in Nebraska around Scottsbluff) for a deer... It has cost him a $25,000.00 dollar fine... I bet he'll learn to recognize what critter he has a license to hunt before he ever pulls a trigger again in a Nebraska hunting season.
This is one of the reasons I prefer hunting the muzzle loading season with a traditional front stuffer. You have to get close enough to identify what the hell you're shooting at...
Now this happened in the high power rifle "deer season" going on now... My guess is; to long a range and not enough scope and he thought he was Carlos Hathcock...
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I hear ya JImBowie and acknowledge yer plight. You ain't alone, friend.
I'm finally poised to move out out this poisoned state of NJ and finding it Very difficult to find a USA state that hasn't been infected, or is probably about to get infected ... and I don't mean a China flu infection, either.
The rights you have for your land have been etched away over the decades, as have mine. It will take a minor miracle for things to get back to the righteous "normal" they used to be.
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Guys, I really appreciate what you are saying.
When Ms. Smoke and I lived in Idaho, it was pretty idyllic. We had 10 acres backing up to state land, on a dirt road, that going in 3 more miles was in the Kootenai National Forrest. Nobody was on property either to the east or west of us. We lived in a nice log house that totaled about 2,200 sq, ft. Detached was a 2 car garage with a narrow but usable workshop. I could and did shoot right off the front porch.
About 15 years ago, we left our little bit of utopia and moved down to CA to care for my mother-in-law. Although not something I would have ever considered, it was the right thing to do. So we stayed here, even after the mom passed away.
So now, at 75, I think my moving years are a thing of the past. We try to go back to Idaho every couple of years and we surely do not like the look of what we see. Never in my life would I ever have imagined gridlock traffic on the main north-south thoroughfare. The secondary roads on either side of it suffer the same fate. It isn't the place I left anymore and it isn't the place I want to be.
So, I guess I will just stay where I am. Being on the coast isn't my cup of tea, but I don't have to pack any boxes to stay, either. The redeeming factor is that the weather is pretty nice on my arthritic back. There is still the problem of the state being run by a bunch of liberal whackos, but that seems to be systematically a problem of most of the coastal states, east or west coast.
John (Bigsmoke)