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Title: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on February 12, 2023, 04:12:30 PM
I really like Rev War history which dovetails with shooting BP guns. Last year, a long-distance rifle match was part of our postal shoot. It was fun, a challenge (an 8 1/2" x 11" target at 100 yards), but on a good day, a doable one. Now imagine shooting at a 7"x10" target at 250 yards, one cold bore shot, standing. That was Capt. Daniel Morgan's make it or not test to qualify to be one of his famed Sharpshooters who used those newfangled long guns with rifling! Scaled down for 100 yards that shingle measures 2 7/8"x4" see it below. I'm personally challenging myself by making my fouling shot, prior to shooting Nessmuk's monthly postal match, by shooting at one of these scaled targets at 100 yards. If I ever do it, you will probably never know about it due to the massive coronary I'll probably suffer. Seriously, try it if you dare and be sure to post your target and brag to high heaven. If you do  [ Invalid Attachment ] it, drinks are on me --Sam Adams Boston lager-- of course! ONE SHOT, COLD BORE, STANDING, 100 YARDS, 2 7/8"x4" TARGET. Good luck!!!

Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on February 13, 2023, 01:47:00 PM
May I wait until the weather warms up?  :luff:

~Kees~
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on February 13, 2023, 04:18:02 PM
Of course you can, WH! And I bet while you're waiting that target will begin calling to you like it's doing to me. I keep hearing "do you feel lucky, soldier, well do you?" I went to the library today and made 8 copies, one for the next time I hit the range and the rest for this year's postals. I plan to use my standard 25 yard  load of 50 grains of 3F with a .490 ball and I'm thinking that will require about 9" of holdover at 100. Thanks for deciding to give it a whirl. I hope more guys do the same.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on February 13, 2023, 05:09:14 PM
Well, the cold bore caveat scares me but challenge accepted!! My first shot at every practice session, club match and Postal match will be at that little postage stamp target.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on February 13, 2023, 05:41:30 PM
Way to go, Nessmuk, that makes 3 of us! Any more guys want to try for a spot in Morgan's latter day company of old timer irregulars like me? Remember, along with the fame comes some Sam Adams lager. Can't wait for April fools day to start your postals.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on February 13, 2023, 05:48:35 PM
I'll give it a try with the ol' .45 caliber flintlock. Probably won't get to it until April sometime.  :bl th up
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on February 13, 2023, 05:59:54 PM
OK, Joe! That makes 4, and there's plenty more room in the boat. Who else wants in?
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on February 13, 2023, 06:03:41 PM
Can I tape my binoculars to my barrel before shooting my target? By the way, walking 600 miles and taking part in a battle does not seem like a very nice prize for accomplishing this amazing feat.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on February 13, 2023, 06:09:43 PM
Sure . . . just duct tape the ramrod first!   :laffing
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on February 13, 2023, 07:00:33 PM
Can I tape my binoculars to my barrel before shooting my target? By the way, walking 600 miles and taking part in a battle does not seem like a very nice prize for accomplishing this amazing feat.

walking 600 miles and taking part in a battle

That's a good point for sure. On the bright side however (but it didn't always work out for the Riflemen as IMHO I don't believe some Officer's of the Line) quite understood how to deploy them... However, when the Riflemen were used as intended - we know they were very effective, and feared.   
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on February 14, 2023, 08:14:10 AM
Don, as long I'm at the range, I might as well throw my fouling shot somewhere in the general vicinity of one of those 100 yd. targets. By the way, do you think any of those Morgan team members couldn't have hit a bull in the butt with a banjo but just got lucky and lobbed one into that shingle? Well there's two things for certain, I ain't got no banjo and I
 ain't planning on getting that close to a bull.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: KDubs on February 14, 2023, 08:46:11 AM
What's a library , they still exist ??
 I'll play .
 I'm stocked up for a season of sulfur burnin' .
 Kevin
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on February 14, 2023, 10:06:35 AM
I think it's doable / and as No Powder has mentioned, there very well may have been some luck involved with some shooters. If you think about it; the 9 Ring on a (NRA TQ-4 100 Yard Target) is 4 inches (and that's hit 'able offhand at 100 Yards), so one's windage is the key to staying inside that 2-7/8" width... At my age I'll be happy if I hit anywhere on the 8.5" x 11" paper that has the 2-7/8" x 4" target on...  :toast

I do wonder from an historical view / if the shooters taking part in trying out for Morgan's Rifle Corp - if they were allowed some shot to get their "Range" - as many of these fellers were woodsmen - and hunted in the woods - so their odds of taking 200 yard shots in the woods (back then) seem pretty slim to me when they were out hunting... I really can't see where they could simply walk up to the firing line and hit a 5x7 inch shingle - without first having taken some practice shots... Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on February 14, 2023, 10:36:17 AM
Glad to see No Powder and KDubs join in. Right now that makes a "six-pack" of shooters. Anyone else thirsty for fame and beer? Good point about the windage, Joe.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on February 14, 2023, 10:48:12 AM
That's sure is a good point Joe. I also like to shoot a fouling shot before shooting any competition targets. And I would think with all the bear grease in their barrels ,they surely would do something similar. I've found that the P.O.I. is a little different than the next shot out of a fouled barrel.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on February 14, 2023, 11:17:14 AM
If possible, what I would like to see; is a "close up" of an actual "Rifleman's Rifle" & its Front & Rear Sights from that time period.

I'd think that their front sight would have had to be very low to the barrel & just fine enough to draw a 200 yards bead. That would be some interesting viewing to compared our sight arrangement to their sight arrangement... And one could no doubt build off that - for 200 yard shooting...

Of course, knowing your chosen Rifle's likes and dislikes - are everything.  :shake
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on February 15, 2023, 06:50:46 PM
So this morning I went to my range to do my normal Wednesday practice. I brought three .36 Cal caplock rifles and The '49er's postage stamp target. My understanding of the challenge is 100yds. offhand, postage stamp target and a cold bore. I fired one shot each. Results? Let's just say I don't have to print another target for next time, the one I have is just fine. :luff: :luff: :luff: :luff:

Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on February 15, 2023, 07:17:44 PM
Would I be too nosey if I were to ask if you were close. I only had five targets printed. That should last me about 10 to 20 years.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on February 15, 2023, 07:18:17 PM
Nessmuk, when you said "postage Stamp target" / now that put it into prospective for sure... I guess I'll just wobble around until my front sight covers the stamp / pull the trigger / and hope for the best...  :laffing
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on February 15, 2023, 07:23:20 PM
What happened, Nessmuk, did all three rifles have bent barrels? In your hands, after the assault, that target should have looked like a piece of Swiss cheese. Well you DO get extra credits for helping the environment by not causing another tree to give its life to become a target.  :laffing Reality check - I haven't tried it yet but I expect identical results.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on February 16, 2023, 12:03:22 AM
Nope, it's not nosey at all. the target paper was 8.5 x  11 inches, the target holder was 24 x 24 inches, I hit cardboard twice, one high, one right and high. The third out of my 20" barreled Canoe gun, hit the berm. I'll try with my three .45s next time. The law of averages is on my side.

 :bigsmile:
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on February 16, 2023, 04:17:22 AM
Considering the firearm you were using, you did a mighty fine job. I wouldn't have wanted to be standing where your target was hanging. As much as I hate cleaning muzzleloaders, I can't imagine having to clean 3 of them. My hats off to you. I'm not looking forward to those 2 extra trips down to the 100yd. backstop, but I had to make an extra trip downrange the other day to pull my ramrod out of the ground, so I better not complain.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on February 16, 2023, 10:59:21 AM
Our club, the old "White River Brigade" (our local Range Traditional ML Chapter) - we use to shoot at a 17" round gong from 200 yards and it was very hit-'able... I also read where Morgan's men put on shooting displays using the 5x7 inch shingle from 60 yards... I also read where (from what I gathered) a Company of Riflemen would "flock" shoot at a group of 5 x 7 inch shingles from 200 yards;

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/morgans-sharpshooters-revolutionary-war/457069

So I do wonder if that 60 yards at a 5x7 shingle may have grown into a "propaganda of the time" - that every man being able to hit a 5x7 shingle from 200 yards / as the reality of the 60 yards was demonstrated "first" by a Company of Riflemen, and later the entire Company would shoot a couple volley's at the 5 x7 inch shingles from 200 yards??? I don't know / just throwing out some speculation, which is great propaganda???

However, this I do know for a fact; It is not one bit hard at all to hit a 17 inch round gong offhand from 200 yards (which is just about the average sized man's shoulder width...

Remember / propaganda goes all the way back to the "organization" of civilization / and it comes in very handy against one's enemies / especially if your enemies are carrying muskets -vs- Long Rifles that can mark out to 200 yards...

I'll also mention / note; that IMHO - a 17" gong really doesn't look that small at all / but a target (basically the size of playing card at 100 yards) does.

Just some prospective on 200 yard shooting. It's a subject that can be discussed quite a bit.

(And, truth be know - (most of us old-timers) by now, have probably sent more shots (by far) down Range then our Ancestors ever did...

 :shake


 

 



Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on February 16, 2023, 01:03:03 PM
Joe, you brought up some great food for thought. The 17" gong at 200 is 227 sq inches. I have never shot a ml at more than 100, at an 8 1/2x11 (93 sq") target, but it seems reasonable that it is doable - twice the distance and a bit more than twice the size. The article mentions shooting at a Colonial dollar sized bullseye (1 1/2") at 60. That's about 1.75 sq". The 5x7 board at 250 is 35 sq". The 7x10 shingle that I mentioned is, of course, 70 sq", shot at, supposedly, from 250 yards. The 100 yard "postage stamp" target is about 12 sq". What all this number slinging means to me is that it's all pretty much equivalent in difficulty. Your "propaganda" mention also makes a lot of sense. Every time I tell the story of my boar 🐗  hunt last year, he seems to get bigger by about 50 pounds and the distance increases by about 10 yards. I'm really beginning to impress myself! Anyone wanting to read more about Morgan, get a copy of Daniel Morgan  Revolutionary Rifleman by Don Higginbotham. Good luck to all of us who tackle the postage stamp.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on February 16, 2023, 01:46:17 PM
In your reading, did it ever mention whether Mr. Morgan himself could hit this 250 yd. target?
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on February 16, 2023, 02:06:02 PM
Sorry, but no. There isn't a lot in the book about his recruiting men for his two companies, but he was a heck of a guy. His finest hour was the battle of Cowpens, SC. It's impressive to tour that battlefield, look at the lay of the land, and imagine yourself there. He was the kind of leader you'd follow to hell and back.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on February 16, 2023, 02:37:02 PM
 :shakeSome Patched Ball perspective here;

Sea Level / .45 caliber Patched Ball / 1800 fps
Well within aiming at the top of a "Redcoats" head and ball dropping into his groin or legs / or just aim high off the top of his hat / head...

Yds..Vel....Energy...Drop...Drift....TOF(sec)

0      1800   983     -0.5    0.0     0.000
50     1233   462     3.3     0.0     0.101
75     1074   350     2.8     0.0     0.167
100    982    293     0.0     0.0     0.240 *100 Yd Zero*
125    906    249     -5.6    0.0     0.319
150    841    215     -14.7   0.0     0.405
175    781    185     -28.0   0.0     0.498
200    724    159     -46.3   0.0     0.598


Here's a link to calculate your Ballistics;

http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/ctml_experiments/rbballistics/web_apps/rb_ballistics.html
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: LongWalker on February 16, 2023, 03:14:31 PM
If possible, what I would like to see; is a "close up" of an actual "Rifleman's Rifle" & its Front & Rear Sights from that time period.

I'd think that their front sight would have had to be very low to the barrel & just fine enough to draw a 200 yards bead. That would be some interesting viewing to compared our sight arrangement to their sight arrangement... And one could no doubt build off that - for 200 yard shooting...

Of course, knowing your chosen Rifle's likes and dislikes - are everything.  :shake
FWIW, the original Dickert I shot out to 400 yards had a front site that measured about .119" in height, and .021" at the thickest (base), tapering smaller towards the muzzle.  The rear sight was roughly 9" from the breech, about .240" in height, and had a notch that looked like a knife-nick.  The sights on a Kibler Colonial are very similar (though the Dickert had a silver front blade).  To aim the Dickert at 200 yards I had to hold the top of the blade over the top of the rear sight. 
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on February 16, 2023, 03:21:42 PM
That's just about what I was a thinking it would be (there about) in that neighborhood!  :bl th up

Kind 'a like "Sight Base Aiming" LongWalker?
 
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on February 16, 2023, 04:46:59 PM
A bit more about the shooting ability of the men who Morgan sought. In a letter, one of Morgan's contemporaries, Richard Henry Lee, said that they displayed remarkable dexterity and that in shooting contests they desired targets at least 200 yards distant and no larger than an orange. Whatever the truth was, they sure knew how to use those "curious muskets" that weren't the usual smooth bores.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on February 16, 2023, 07:17:45 PM
I do think it's fair to say of those feller's back then, that they knew their rifle and their capabilities - as it was an everyday survival tool that was used a lot for hunting / protection / and the good ol' shooting match that usually followed Church services on Sunday in their settlements.

I wouldn't want to shoot against them in a shooting match / and I darn sure would want them by my side if some dangerous shooting was called for! IMHO, you just can't beat an American Rifleman!  :toast
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on February 16, 2023, 07:45:54 PM
10-4 good buddy! Here's a thought that might speak to their shooting ability. If many guys were so adept that they wanted orange sized or smaller targets at 200 yards, maybe that cold bore shot at a 7x10 shingle at 250 was Morgan's way of going EASY on the newbies who were trying for a spot in one of his companies!   :toast
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on February 16, 2023, 07:51:54 PM
Heck, I'd want them on my team whether or not they shot the shingle or the orange.  :toast
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: LongWalker on February 16, 2023, 08:12:41 PM
That's just about what I was a thinking it would be (there about) in that neighborhood!  :bl th up

Kind 'a like "Sight Base Aiming" LongWalker?
The sight base didn't really come into play til about 300 yards; by 400 I was holding on the barrel. . . .

The really bad part of such low sights is the way we do our shoots today.  Instead of 20 or however many shooters lining up, firing one shot, then going to the back of the line (letting barrels cool) while waiting to shoot again, we do 20 minute relays.  The heat waves coming off the barrel make such low sights very hard to use.  I know I'll be changing the sights on the Kibler, won't know to what til I get it in hand. 

The more I think about it, the more I think my Leman will keep the same sights as it has now.  When I rebuild my personal rifle I'll be changing the rear sight to a folding leaf jaeger style, with the fixed leaf filed to what the Brits call an "express sight", and the front will get changed to a lower bead kinda like the Dickert had. 

I'm looking forward to getting the Kibler done so I can play more in games like these!
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on February 22, 2023, 07:25:36 PM
A bit more about the shooting ability of the men who Morgan sought. In a letter, one of Morgan's contemporaries, Richard Henry Lee, said that they displayed remarkable dexterity and that in shooting contests they desired targets at least 200 yards distant and no larger than an orange. Whatever the truth was, they sure knew how to use those "curious muskets" that weren't the usual smooth bores.

Hmmm.  They must have had eagle eyes to even SEE an orange at 200 yards.  I think I would be hard put to see one at that distance even with 8 power binoculars!
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on March 06, 2023, 08:05:24 PM
Well, I tried again Sunday before our regular match. I was using my .45 TC Hawken. Just one Rifle as it was pretty breezy on Sunday. I took a nice big chunk out of the target, enough said.  ;banghead;. Would someone else please try it and share your tale of woe?
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on March 06, 2023, 08:51:43 PM
I've tried twice now . First time with 45 TC  Hawken. Shot 5" to the left of the edge of the shingle. Second time with 50 TC Renegade. This time I shot 7" to the right of the edge of the shingle. Doesn't look too promising.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on March 06, 2023, 11:41:24 PM
Well, Nessmuk and No Powder, I haven't tried yet. I might get a chance dyring the last three weeks of the month if the weather cooperates. Trouble is it's getting colder and rain and snow might be coming. You guys aren't giving me much hope, though. Those Rev citizen/soldiers must have been some tough guys who never wasted a precious lead ball.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on March 09, 2023, 04:15:27 PM
Well I tried the shingle target again today . But I don't know if I have a tale of woe or not. If 1/2 of the ball has to be inside the shingle, it's a tale of woe .If it only has too hit the edge of the shingle, it's a tale of lucky success. I will try to post a picture if my wife will help. The temp was about 34 with a bit of wind. I've been trying to play with Schuetzen powder, so after shooting my fouling shot at the shingle, I shot 3 more shots at 50yds. My fingers were beginning to feel like popsicles by that time and I decided to go home.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on March 10, 2023, 12:56:10 AM
Mrs. No Powder, please help him post the picture. We're on pins and needles waiting. :applaud :applaud
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: KDubs on March 14, 2023, 03:51:49 PM
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Well,  nuff said.
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Kevin
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on March 14, 2023, 04:15:39 PM
KDubs, that looks like a solid attempt with terrific results, especially considering it was done with a whopping sized ball, a huge gob of powder, and a smoothbore to boot! You have my respect, and I don't ever want you shooting at me! Great job. I hope you keep trying and also try it with a rifled barrel. Great pics, thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on March 14, 2023, 04:18:07 PM
Kevin, there are a bunch of good  smooth bore shooters in this group, and you're one of them.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: KDubs on March 14, 2023, 07:16:02 PM
Well I'm more lucky than good . thanks so much.
 This is my kit I built a yr or so ago. This was Probably my 5th shot from it. Don't have a set charge yet.
 I need to shoot it a lot more . I spent some time over the winter tuning the lock and learning about flintlocks a la Mike belivue.  Sorry to here of his dilemma.
 I'll keep trying, .54 hawken is next and for fun maybe a .54 great Plains pistol.  Why not. 
 Kevin
 
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Bigsmoke on March 14, 2023, 11:39:13 PM
Kevin, you needed to patch the ball.
A silk patch would have given you a flatter trajectory.
Don't believe it?  Watch Last of the Mohicans.
John (Bigsmoke)
PS, Good shooting to even hit the paper.
J
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: KDubs on March 15, 2023, 09:32:02 AM
I will patch John, I will.
 Just wanted to see if a traditional powder ball wad would work.
 Still need to figure out my charge of powder .
 Weather here is finally turning towards spring so ...yippee.
Kevin
 Ps going to fawn creek rondy in Montana Apr 6-9.
I understand there is a " shotgun shoot" .
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on March 15, 2023, 09:56:19 AM
Earlier in this thread, Ohio Joe mentioned a "flock" shoot. I've never heard of that before, so I need an explanation.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on March 18, 2023, 11:38:45 AM
I was looking back at the threads on shooting and videos made by Idaholewis. I bet if that rascal was shooting at that shingle, he would put one right in the middle. Maybe even using a Renegade.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on March 18, 2023, 04:16:35 PM
Earlier in this thread, Ohio Joe mentioned a "flock" shoot. I've never heard of that before, so I need an explanation.

Riflemen would "flock" shoot at a group of 5 x 7 inch shingles from 200 yards;

Lets say a Company of Riflemen lined up in front of a couple (3 or 4 boards / one board above the other with 5 x 7 shingles on it, one above the other) - and a Company of Riflemen all shot at the same time and hit some of those shingles from 200 yards... Now that would be a sight to see, and the crowd watching would no doubt talk about that for a long time - and Morgan himself knowing that word of this feat would eventually reach the British Army's Soldiers - and strike some long-range fear into the British Ranks.

-or-

A single Rifleman shooting at a wall of 5x7 shingles - he's bound to hit one / or at least the odds are in his favor... He (they) could always say that was the one that he was aiming at... And how would anyone know? 
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on March 18, 2023, 04:35:28 PM
I was looking back at the threads on shooting and videos made by Idaholewis. I bet if that rascal was shooting at that shingle, he would put one right in the middle. Maybe even using a Renegade.

He most likely would!!! Tom, I do enjoy his videos!!!  :hairy
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on March 18, 2023, 04:48:03 PM
Thanks Joe. I'm sure if I would see several riflemen simultaneously hit several shingles at 200yds. I would certainly talk about it for some time. And if I were the enemy, and heard about this feat, I'd be running wth my tail between my legs.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on March 18, 2023, 07:30:15 PM
Another Attempt, another miss  :Doh!! Tomorrow is another Day!!
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on March 19, 2023, 06:53:48 AM
I have to get out and give it a try as well Nessmuk, if I can ever catch some decent weather. Probably about another month...
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on March 19, 2023, 08:23:11 AM
I hope you can get out soon Joe. I know what it's like to have the bug and can't do anything about it. IIRC, all the postal shooters had trouble with the elements last year. Especially the wind. I don't suppose this year will be any different. Wouldn't it be nice to have an indoor shooting range. My club has an indoor range, but the maximum distance you can shoot is 25yds. and maximum caliber is.22. So much for smoke pole shooting. Sounds like most of our targets will be shot at 25yds. (Just guessing). Maybe the wind won't be as big of an issue . Cross your fingers. Nessmuk ,I guarantee your perseverance will pay off. Hang in there buddy.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on March 19, 2023, 11:48:57 AM
It will eventually warm up and the wind will go down, but I don't even try to predict northwest Nebraska weather of when it'll happen...  :shake
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Bigsmoke on March 20, 2023, 05:55:25 PM
I will patch John, I will.
 Just wanted to see if a traditional powder ball wad would work.
 Still need to figure out my charge of powder .
 Weather here is finally turning towards spring so ...yippee.
Kevin
 Ps going to fawn creek rondy in Montana Apr 6-9.
I understand there is a " shotgun shoot" .
I would also recommend going to the Eureka, MT Tobacco Valley RDV, if they are still having it.  The town used to really get behind it.  I didn't find any info about this years event, but this URL is for last year.
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://onlinewithtvnews.files.wordpress.com/2022/04/rendezvous-guide.pdf
Last year it was held the end of April and the first of May.  Much more to do than any other rendezvous I have been to, including previous RDV's there.
Thinking I might be in Idaho for CdA and Moscow RDV's
John (Bigsmoke)
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on March 20, 2023, 07:46:34 PM
Another Attempt, another miss  :Doh!! Tomorrow is another Day!!
  I think one of our friends in Ohio is going to try the shingle tomorrow. You failed to give us any particulars about your last attempt.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on March 21, 2023, 04:40:07 PM
Morgan's Shingle - first attempt. I'll begin by saying that based on today's results, the First Sergeant took away my rifle and then handed me a smoothbore musket, complete with bayonet, and showed me where to stand with the rest of my squad in the front rank.  :P  Actually, I did a little better than expected. Using 50 gr of 3F and a patched .490 ball, I aimed about 10" above the top of the "postage stamp". If the shot would have been 7" to the right, it would have kissed the top edge and duplicated No Powder's target. Oh well, there are no Morgan's Sharpshooters named Shoulda, Woulda, or Coulda. Next month is attempt #2.

Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on March 24, 2023, 05:08:21 PM
Next month is attempt #2.

Wait! we only get one shot per month?    :o

~Kees~
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on March 24, 2023, 05:59:43 PM
I don't think so Kees. Because Nessmuk took several rifles to the range and shot one shot out of each of them. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on March 24, 2023, 08:06:51 PM
No, Winter Hawk, there is no limit to how often you or anyone else attempts it. The only requirements are: offhand, and just one cold bore shot, at the scaled 100 yard target.  I know I will be making my attempt each month of the postal matches, so that's why I said "next month." If I decide to shoot Clementine more often then I will have a few more opportunities. Good luck to all.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on March 25, 2023, 02:23:34 PM
PHEW, thank you.  I was getting worried there.... :lol sign

~Kees~
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on March 29, 2023, 10:35:31 AM
ARRRGH!!!!! I'm getting tired of reporting missed attempts at the Capt. Morgan challenge, at least this time I hit paper.

A quick question for the Miner 49er, how long does it take for a barrel to become "Cold Bore"?

If I go to practice and try the Challenge with my .45, miss, naturally. Practice for an hour or so with my .40 (not at the Challenge target or distance).
Then before I leave can I pick up the now cold .45 and try one more time at the Challenge?
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on March 29, 2023, 12:08:22 PM
Oh, Nessmuk, that's a tough nut to crack. Since this is a personal challenge, it's up to each person to do it as he or she sees fit. As for me, "cold bore" means no patched ball has been shot from it, but I'm not laying down "the law." I have only tried once. I walked down posted the target, walked back, loaded old Clementine and gave it a go, then I muttered something under my breath. For me that meant no more trys that day from that rifle as the bore was now fouled. Great question, let's see what other guys think.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on March 29, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
I have to report abject failure today; an inch or so below and another inch to the right of the bottom right corner of the paper.  At least my target will be available for my next try. :applaud

As to "cold Bore", I take it to mean that the shooter hasn't taken any shots prior to his qualifying one.  I see it as a test that, if Morgan's man has been slipping around in the woods scouting and sees, say a redcoat officer at long range, he has the ability to take the shot with confidence that he will take out the enemy.  So by my interpretation of the rules even if the rifle has cooled off totally, the shooter has been able to practice if he shoots something else between his attempts at the shingle.  Consider that back in Morgan's time the applicant probably only had one gun, so he didn't have the luxury of having warmed up with another one.

~Kees~
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Hank in WV on March 29, 2023, 10:00:08 PM
I may be wrong (it's happened), but I took the rules to mean an unfouled bore.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on March 29, 2023, 11:49:37 PM
I think Kees nailed it. First shot of the day is the one that counts. Just like the scenario Kees laid out. Once you take that first shot, successful or not, the redcoats know exactly where you are.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on April 05, 2023, 12:49:07 PM
I expect most don't have a dedicated 100 yard zeroed rifle with our fixed sight muzzle loading rifle, so this very well could be a two "Range" trip challenge (or better). First trip to get that 100 yard zero (or at least to figure out where you're marking and need to aim at 100 yards (which would be the time to clean the bore between shots) - then the day(s) after that trying the challenge... But, one never knows - you might get lucky on your first trip out. It can happen if 'n you know your rifle inside and out for your hold. After all, it's just another 100 yard target you have to hit in a shooting challenge. And a good one at that!!! :bl th up

Side Note; We have over a foot of snow out here where I live (from this last storm that has went through over the last couple of days - so I won't be getting to the Range anytime soon... (or at least not until towards the end of the month) - we have drifts up to; 2 to 3 feet in a lot of areas. I'm just lucky I can get out of my alley...)   
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on April 05, 2023, 03:05:09 PM
Joe, have you been paying your taxes?
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on April 05, 2023, 05:45:48 PM
Joe, have you been paying your taxes?

They're not suppose to be using our local tax dollars for buying snow...  :laffing :Doh!
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on April 05, 2023, 07:26:54 PM
My problem is you have to have a nearly calm day to zero-in. In Oklahoma a nearly calm day when the wind is under 15mph and those are rare as snow in KEY WEST.

 :luff: :luff: :luff:
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on April 05, 2023, 08:05:53 PM
I believe it Nessmuk! That's not a whole lot 'a difference here at our local Range when that wind sweeps down off the grasslands to my North and sweeps along the edge of these buttes and across our local Range. That's why I like to get as close as I can to our "Range Berm Dividers" and even then I think this wind simply likes to sweep down into these protected places just to show us it can!  :o  :laffing

But somehow (like yourself) we make it work!  :shake
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on April 05, 2023, 09:02:58 PM
I think I missed two good days to shoot by not going to the range on Monday or Tuesday . Those  days would have been good for shingle shooting. But on the other hand , the range is about 11 miles away and the weather could have been completely different there. Now a cold front is moving in and the wind is picking up. That cutting the grass target looks like a real challenge to me, but I'm hoping I can shoot it next week and take another poke at that shingle.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on April 05, 2023, 11:43:28 PM
We have "4 to 5 foot plus" snow drifts all over the place here. The city did plow out my alley this morning (which had some big snow drifts in). It's going to be a' while before I get to the Range now... I expect our lane to our Range entrance gate is probably drifted in as well. I'm not even going to guess what it looks like inside our Range confines... But, this is NW Nebraska and this isn't all that uncommon... It'll certainly green things up when it melts!

And yes, I'll complain how danged hot it is in July and August!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on April 06, 2023, 10:04:44 PM
Next time I'm up your way, Joe, I'll drop off my snow blower which hasn't been used in 4 years.  I just went through it last fall, changing oil, replacing the air filter, new belt and the scraper bar.  It should cut through those 4' drifts in no time!   :luff:

~Kees~
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on April 06, 2023, 10:58:21 PM
Mighty nice of you Winter Hawk!  :shake

Sad part is that I live on a hill and the way my property is situated, I'd have to blow snow out of my ally just to get the blower to the street - then blow snow for a "long" (two half blocks just to get it to my front sidewalk... Least that's how I remember doing it when I had a snow blower...  :laffing

I best stick with the shovel... Wife says my life insurance is paid up... (just kidding / she didn't say that)

 
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Hank in WV on April 07, 2023, 04:58:02 AM
Yeah, traveling that alley of yours in the snow doesn't seem like it would be any fun.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Ohio Joe on April 07, 2023, 04:25:32 PM
Yeah, traveling that alley of yours in the snow doesn't seem like it would be any fun.

Yes sir Hank, I know you know my layout. That was a great visit we had those years back, that's for sure. The good ol' days my friend.   :shake
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: KDubs on April 15, 2023, 07:35:58 PM
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Ssgt wade reporting for muster, I'll got back to peeling taters now.
 Well atleast I'm closer.
Kevin
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on April 15, 2023, 09:22:19 PM
Man-o-man, Kevin, that is one fine shot! Much closer than either of the two I have done. Great thing is, if you keep shooting like that you won't be on KP much longer. Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: KDubs on April 15, 2023, 10:38:58 PM
 Thank you.  I'll post em as I get em.
Kevin
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on April 16, 2023, 09:23:09 PM
Glad you weren't shooting at me Kevin. That woulda hurt.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on April 21, 2023, 10:02:00 PM
A little better than last time; at least I was on the paper!    :laffing

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~Kees~
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on April 21, 2023, 11:54:40 PM
If those are quarter inch squares, your shot was only 3" out. Great shooting! You're on the right track.  :)
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on April 23, 2023, 11:45:44 AM
If those are quarter inch squares, your shot was only 3" out. Great shooting! You're on the right track.  :)

They are 1/5" squares (5 to the inch).  Thank you for the encouragement!  :shake

~Kees~
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on April 23, 2023, 12:05:09 PM
That makes your shot even more impressive. I bet you will soon join Morgan's men. Good luck!
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on April 26, 2023, 12:30:09 PM
Didn't do as well today - not on the paper.
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~Kees~
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on April 26, 2023, 01:30:07 PM
Well, at least you litetally gave it another shot, and you're not giving up. My third attempt will be next month after Nessmuk reveals the next rondy target. I hope lady luck smiles at me. I think those of us who are going after the shingle are respecting more and more the skill of Morgan's sharpshooters.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on April 26, 2023, 01:32:52 PM
Kees, when that happens, always blame it on the wind. And please don't reply back that it wasn't windy. It's always windy.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on April 27, 2023, 08:11:05 PM
Kees, when that happens, always blame it on the wind. And please don't reply back that it wasn't windy. It's always windy.

That almost made me spray coffee on the keyboard!  :laffing

But yes, we are shooting at 100 yards where the trajectory is relatively flat; those guys were at 250 yards and having to compensate for the rainbow effect.  How high to do you aim over the target to hit it at that range?  Even if you increase the powder charge you are in the "guess and a prayer" area of aiming!

~Kees~
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on April 27, 2023, 09:11:42 PM
Kees, If it makes you feel any better,  I tried again today and wasn't too close to the paper. Tried a different gun this time, and it appears that was a bad decision. But I won't give up on it. Maybe need to tweak the sights a bit . Is your shot on that last target in the tape on the right upper corner ?  If so, that is really close.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on April 27, 2023, 11:52:13 PM
Tomorrow I go out for my 8th attempt at the challenge, I've hit paper 3 times (edges only) Forecasted wind 3MPH. Wish me luck!
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on April 29, 2023, 12:54:29 PM
The Blind Hog finds the Acorn  OR   Persistence Pays Off!!

Yesterday I finally managed it to nick the black on Capt. Morgan's challenge!

It was so close I couldn't even tell for sure on my spotting scope.
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Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on April 29, 2023, 01:39:08 PM
Way to go Nessmuk. That was a better shot than mine. They used to say, third time is a charm ,now it is eighth time is a charm.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on April 29, 2023, 04:01:55 PM
Strike up the band for Nessmuk!! Oh, mama, he DID it, he got the mini shingle, or as he dubbed it "the postage stamp" target. Wow, THAT is a good solid hit and some fine shooting. I'm happy to see that Capt. Morgan now has another Sharpshooter. Mark, please pm me your mailing address so I can forward the Captain's wallet sized portrait of Alex Hamilton so you can enjoy some Sam Adams Boston lager, or your fav celebratory drink.  :hairy :toast :applaud
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: KDubs on April 30, 2023, 07:21:24 PM
 :yessir: outstanding cadet.
Kevin
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on May 04, 2023, 08:49:02 PM
Kees, Is your shot on that last target in the tape on the right upper corner ?  If so, that is really close.

Yes sir, that would be the bullet hole.  And thank you for saying it was close, but we ain't playing horseshoes here!

Question: how many times did Morgan allow someone to come back and try again?  It was probably one shot and you're out, I imagine.

~Kees~
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on May 09, 2023, 11:24:34 PM

Question: how many times did Morgan allow someone to come back and try again?  It was probably one shot and you're out, I imagine.

I believe you are right. There wouldn't have been time to allow guys to return another time, or day, for a do over. The goal was to get the cream of the crop, so I believe a guy stepped up and literally gave it his best shot.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on May 12, 2023, 07:38:52 PM
 :bl th up
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on August 01, 2023, 04:43:30 PM
My July attempt at the mini shingle was a good solid attempt. I solidly missed the shingle. I solidly missed the 8 1/2 X 11 paper it was printed on, and I solidly missed the backer (approximately 16 X 24). Now that's what I call a good solid attempt. We won't talk about the results, though!  :stooges:
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on August 08, 2023, 11:33:22 PM
As of today I'm 0 for 6  :Doh! Anyone else still in the game?
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: KDubs on August 09, 2023, 08:04:50 AM
Well I will with this new kibler once I get it sighted in.
Kevin

Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on August 09, 2023, 02:49:30 PM
Actually, I've been trying with my .32. 0 for 3 so far. Shooting 45 gr of Goex.  I hit the board once so far
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on August 23, 2023, 03:03:07 PM
I tried again today.  Not on paper, but close (bottom left in photo).

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Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on August 23, 2023, 04:15:44 PM
While some might see a miss, I'm here to say that's a decent shot, Winter Hawk.  As for me, if we were shooting at the shingles on the roof over the giant in Jack and the Bean Stalk, I might do better. Morgan's and Cresap's men really walked the walk, and so did No Powder and Nessmuk. I'd tip my tricorn if I had one.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on September 11, 2023, 05:56:41 PM
Well, I'm 0 for 7.  :P It took Nessmuk eight attempts, so maybe next time, or #9, or maybe #10 will do it. If I don't succeed in ten tries, I think I'll throw in the towel.  :pray: [ Invalid Attachment ]
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on September 12, 2023, 03:53:15 PM
 :hairy It looks like a teensie shift of the rear sight to the right would put you on!  That is an impressive target, shooting cold and offhand.  I need to get out and make another try.  Also to shoot the September target(s).  :toast

~Kees~
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on September 12, 2023, 06:14:15 PM
Thanks, WH. I agree that a sight shift would help, some, but how do I cure the yips that happen every time I draw down on that shingle? I hope you shoot the Sept targets, but fair warning, the King's X will drive you crazy.  :stooges:
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Nessmuk on September 14, 2023, 11:35:04 AM
The "Yips"? Is that what it's called? The tiny little terrors you feel when you sight down the barrel and and realize this is the one that really counts?
I still get those. BTW, I'm still trying with my .32.  12 attempts to date and only hit paper twice.  By the way, does this challenge have an expiration date?
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on September 14, 2023, 12:05:31 PM
Yes, the challenge ends on the "expiration" of the shooter!  YMMV.:laffing
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on September 20, 2023, 10:34:06 PM
Hey, did you catch the comment made by No Powder in The Campfire section in which he thanks his B-day well-wishers? If you read it carefully, and I missed it the first time, he hit the 100 yard mini shingle, the "postage stamp" a second time! Yep, lightning might not strike twice in the same place, but No Powder does! As the late, great Gunny used to say, "Outstanding!" He received another, larger, Alex Hamilton portrait for his achievement. Can anybody else, Nessmuk perhaps, catch up to him?   :applaud  :toast. I know that Winter Hawk is still trying, and so am I, but anyone else got the grit to try?





Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Salty on September 27, 2023, 05:59:59 PM
Ha Ha Ive gotta wait for the weather to cool down!  ;)

Sorry I'm coming in so late. But I'llgive it a shot.  :Doh!

Salty


May I wait until the weather warms up?  :luff:

~Kees~

Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on September 27, 2023, 07:09:33 PM
I admire your enthusiasm Salty. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on October 15, 2023, 05:42:58 PM
Well as of 10/12 I'm 0 for 8 on the shingle. I missed the shingle, the sheet it is printed on, and the entire backer. It's finally dawned on me (I'm a slow learner) that had I been a Rev war army recruit I would have qualified for spud peeler first class rather than one of Morgan or Cresap's guys. I think I have two more tries in me before I wave the while flag.  :Doh!
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Salty on October 15, 2023, 06:17:23 PM
Well as of 10/12 I'm 0 for 8 on the shingle. I missed the shingle, the sheet it is printed on, and the entire backer. It's finally dawned on me (I'm a slow learner) that had I been a Rev war army recruit I would have qualified for spud peeler first class rather than one of Morgan or Cresap's guys. I think I have two more tries in me before I wave the while flag.  :Doh!

Noooo. Don’t give up.
I missed it as well.
I asked my wife to go to the range with me to spot my shots.
Is that allowed?
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: The Miner '49er on October 15, 2023, 07:11:40 PM
There's no reason why she couldn't spot for you, but I think that a large backer would yield more useful info to incorporate in your next cold bore attempt the next time you go to the range to try. In my case, by "big", I mean a backer the side of a refrigerator carton! 😱
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Winter Hawk on October 16, 2023, 07:04:30 PM
I asked my wife to go to the range with me to spot my shots.
Is that allowed?
Sure it's allowed!  :bigsmile: Just remember that it is one shot per day, cold bore, first shot of the day so her spotter duties will probably consist of helping you get the target & backer.  :shake

~Kees~

Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on November 04, 2023, 01:43:38 PM
Today's attempt at the Revolutionary sized target. Another close but no cigar this time. Isn't it frustrating when you are so close but yet so far away. Today's try was with a TC 54 Hawken. 65 grains of FFG Goex, a .018 printed pillow ticking patch and Lehigh Valley patch lubricant. [ Invalid Attachment ]
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: KDubs on November 06, 2023, 08:33:01 AM
Well at least your trying, I have no excuses, well I do but they are poor.
 Just curious as to your POA ( how high) on the target in relation to the hit .  also at what range is the TC sighted in.
 that's about the same set up I shoot in my TC hawken , save a spit patch rather than lube .
 Kevin
 
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on November 06, 2023, 09:47:49 AM
This particular day I wanted to try some different balls & patches. So before getting serious on the bags I just thought I would try this target first. I was trying some 530 Lee cast balls that were tumbled about 2hours . Just a little flat spot remained on the balls. I always loaded that spot up. The patches were the printed ticking that I had inquired about on another thread. I normally shoot my rifles 1 1/2" - 2" high at 50yds. But I shoot lower when shooting off hand. My POA on this target has been at the top of the paper and that gets me relatively close. With my 95 gr. hunting load it would have probably shot higher.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Salty on November 06, 2023, 10:51:53 AM
Here’s my latest attempt. 440 RB patched 018 ticking. 50gr Swiss3f. tC 13 lube. POA center of target.
Better luck next time.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on November 06, 2023, 11:29:04 AM
Hey Salty, you're like me. Close but no cigar this time. Just plain frustrating.

Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: No Powder on December 16, 2023, 01:22:17 PM
Anyone try the Rev. sized target lately? Went to the range with the 45TC Hawken today to try something before the PA flintlock season. So naturally I just had to try the shingle first. And naturally I missed it big time. No cigar and not even close. I hope that's not a sign of how deer season is going to be.
Title: Re: Are you up to a Revolutionary sized personal challenge?
Post by: Salty on December 16, 2023, 05:40:56 PM
I’m gonna give it another try on Monday. Never give up.