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Traditional Firearms => Flintlock Long Guns => Topic started by: Steve S on April 07, 2008, 02:35:45 PM

Title: Loyalist Arms Doglock....Why can't I get a consistant spark?
Post by: Steve S on April 07, 2008, 02:35:45 PM
Title says it all......tried about a dozen different flints,all ways round(which work fine in my bess)...still random result.....I know it's a VERY strong action..AND the frizzen spring is very strong....any ideas?
Steve
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Post by: BEAVERMAN on April 07, 2008, 03:05:47 PM
A friend was having the same problem with a pedersoli pistol, took it to a builder here, he relieved some of the frizzen spring and cut the strentgh by almost half, dang thing sparks like mad now.
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Post by: RichW on April 07, 2008, 03:32:24 PM
Try it without the frizzen spring, just a little finger pressure.  Keep your finger free of the flint though  :lol:
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Post by: Captchee on April 07, 2008, 03:32:43 PM
beaverman is correct , if the frizzen spring is to strong , the flnt will bounce down the face of the frizzen. take the frizzen spring off and try it .
 if still no sparking , take a rubber band an make a  couple passes  around the barrel to help hold the frizzen closed  and give alittle resistance
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Post by: Loyalist Dave on April 08, 2008, 03:29:55 PM
WOW I learned a new bit o' info about frizzen springs.  You guys are great!   :bow

LD
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Post by: mtnmuzzleldr on April 24, 2008, 09:24:36 PM
Loyalist is pretty easy to deal with if you let them know they would probably fix it for you but the guys are right technically youdon't really even ned the frizzen spring cept to keep the pan closed.  You may also be able to get a universal spring from Dixie gun works and if it is to long you can shorten it.
If you care to venture yourself remove the frizzen by slightly depressing the frizzen spring.  If you remove some of the end that makes contact with the spring with a belt sander or Dremel tool it will relive some of that tenson from the spring.  Do this very slowly as to not heat the frizzen when you do this or you may need to retemper the frizzen.  If it were me that is what I would do.
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Post by: Steve S on June 11, 2008, 04:14:14 PM
6 weeks later.....re-hardened frizzen seems to have solved problem..('tho I still need steroids for the trigger pull...)
Steve
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Post by: deadfallpaul on June 11, 2008, 04:57:23 PM
I didn't realize this until this Saturday at a reenactment we did locally.
One of the guys had the screw holding his frizzen spring break during a skirmish. The spring was lost but he just kept priming and closing the frizzen and that sucker just kept a firing!!
We were all amzed that it worked!!
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