Stopping a barrel from continuing browning?

[Lonewolfe20]

I browned my first barrel last week using Casey-birch wood browning solution.
I checked the gun tonight and saw that I have rust scale build up in some areas
I heated and applied the solution twice and then oil the barrel down with
bore butter  I oiled it several times but still it rusts.
I have read in some articles about boiling the barrel in water to stop the rust
what have I done wrong or what should my next step be

Thanks everybody

[Roaddog]

Wash it down with bakingsoda and wader.Then oil it. If it has scaling card it again first.

[Detached]

Birchwood-Casey has a guide you can download on their website. It has a nice step-by-step description of their browning process.

You have to wash down the barrel with hot water, then dry. I don't know that bore butter is the correct treatment. They suggest the use of their own product, which smells like WD-40. I have used both with success.

https://www.birchwoodcasey.com/Manage/l ... -2013.aspx

[Lonewolfe20]

Thanks I will get it done this weekend. I followed the instructions on the back
of the bottle but felt they were kind of vague.

Have a good weekend

Mitakuye Oyasin

[Detached]

It's kind of weird, but the instructions the on bottle are somewhat different than those on the brochure.

[Bigsmoke]

Well, I have heard advice to oil the barrel ranging from linseed oil to ATF to motor oil to paste wax.
I think the main thing trying to avoid is letting further oxygen get to the metal surface to continue the oxidizing process.  Bore Butter?  Should do the trick as well.
As far as killing the browning process, I used to use washing soda, which can be found in the laundry section at your grocery store.  It's like baking soda, but on steroids.
Enjoy.  Hope it all comes out well.
John

[Captchee]

Your first issue was the use of bore butter .
 Ill stop there on  that .
 What I do is  completely oil the barrel .  If I want a more red brown , then ill use ATF but it must be a non detergent ATF.
 For the most part I use simple motor oil .  Just slop it on good and heavy . Let it set over night and do it again .
 Baking soda will also work to neutralize but normally I don’t  use it unless im rusting a Damascus barrel

[Lonewolfe20]

Hey captchee
I will wash and then oil it with some  motor oil  
I don't have any non-det ATF
How did I go wrong with bore butter in your opinion

Also what do you guys oil your barrels with after cleaning them after a shoot

Thanks for helping me on my first barrel guys

Also I downloaded the Casey book as well

Mitakuye Oyasin

[Captchee]

How did I go wrong with bore butter in your opinion

LOL I just heard that big ,,,,,,gasp,,,,,,,,  and a ; oh man , don’t get him started .
Ill spair them the  speech lol  and just say ....

 Personally IMO bore butter/ wonder lube / 1000 bore butter ............. is not good for much of anything to include  putting in your bore .
 Well let me take that back and say it doesn’t do to bad as a  conical lube
 But past all that .........
  When you use chloride of antimony or  its modern  equivalent ,which is still nothing more then   browning salts , you have to stop the acidic reaction of  those salts . The way to do that is to encapsulate, thus neutralize “OIL” or  chemically  neutralize them “baking soda”
  Bore butter is a grease  its not an oil . What you want is something that will stay  liquid  and soak into and around the Iron oxide  that’s forming your brown. It has to get down , around and through it  tell such time as once again its  contacting the base metal . If it doesn’t then the oxide will continue to grow.
 Bore butter even if applied hot so that it will  go on in liquid form  does not soak deep enough .  Now it might if you kept applying it over a long period of time .
But IMO it wont  in a couple days .

[snake eyes]

Also what do you guys oil your barrels with after cleaning them after a shoot

 Personally I use Rem-Oil. Never had a problem with rust, but I do tend to clean
them quite often.At least lightly once a month.More just to handle them than anything
else.
     snake-eyes  

[Lonewolfe20]

I am officially Schooled

I never thought about the differences of grease vs oil

Thank you very much for the explanation

My father inlaw used Remington as well I wondered if there anything better

Thanks everyone have a great weekend

Mitakuye Oyasin

[Detached]

The penetration that Cap talks about is why Birchwood Casey's product, WD-40, and Remoil work so well.

[cb]

Instead of baking or washing soda I use household ammonia followed by lots of first hot soapy water and then rinse well. Ammonia is a strong base and will neutralize better than the sodas.

Then use a good oil while the part is still warm I use Tried True's linseed oil, which is an old fashioned real boiled linseed oil, similar to that used by period gunsmiths.

[Captchee]

Yes you can use Ammonia in this case .
However one should be very aware  that ammonia does always play well with those around  it . In other words if you have used  say bleach to  either age or  rust a barrel , you might want to be a little careful with the ammonia .
Baking soda doesn’t really have any real issues with reactions