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Author Topic: welding needed  (Read 1297 times)

Offline greggholmes

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welding needed
« on: August 10, 2014, 08:10:31 PM »
I have my dads " Manton " 10 gauge shotgun.

while taking it apart to clean and oil it, the trigger gaurd had a crack in it and decided to let go.
At what would be this corner on this gun.
(i dont have a pic of it with me, im at work its at home so i used this pic to show where the break is).



I need someone to weld it for me for a shoot coming up in the middle of September. It doesn't have to be perfect just clean and even.
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Offline Captchee

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Re: welding needed
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2014, 07:09:57 AM »
boy , thats the worst possable spot . need to find someone with a tig .
alot of these that were not cast , wete simply forged , so  you end up with the metal being foulded and thus very thin right there

Offline James Kelly

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Re: welding needed
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2014, 06:41:05 PM »
"Steel" or iron mounts for London made Colt revolvers were cast malleable iron. I'd bet Manton the same. In my opinion you need a skilled TIG (a.k.a. GTAW) welder and a high nickel weld filler made for cast iron. That is, either about 50% nickel by weight, or about 90% nickel by weight, balance iron.

I'd have to read up on malleable iron metallurgy but I'd think that some manner of s-l-o-w anneal would be appropriate after welding.

Or you could find a guy skilled at silver brazing cast iron. This is not quite like like silver brazing/soldering steel, experience would be nice. Saves annealing, less chance of ruining it. I  could dig up info on brazing cast iron if you wish.

Metallurgist for the last half century.

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if the ball is not rammed close on the powder. . .frequently cause the barrel to burst

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Re: welding needed
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2014, 06:41:26 PM »
Pushed button twice, sorry.
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if the ball is not rammed close on the powder. . .frequently cause the barrel to burst

Offline greggholmes

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Re: welding needed
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2014, 06:55:36 PM »
I have a pro welder I know, just hard to get a hold of him. He once welded an aluminum bar to a steel table,  and it held for what he needed. He certed nuke and food service welding.
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