GPR Lock Improvement

[Muley]

That's what mine looks like and Mark called it too high. He said it shoots everytime now, but isn't fast. I don't know if that means not as fast as a caplock, or the guns he builds. He uses the top components and a GPR will probably never be as fast as.

I guess I won't know until I shoot it.

[RobD]

re: "He said it shoots everytime now, but isn't fast."  

fast with regards to what?  how is it being loaded?  what are the components?  much to understand what "isn't fast" means.

i get "fast" ignition with ALL my flintlocks, from cheap $425 kit guns to $2400 custom jobs.  and that's with 3f in the pan, not 4f.  y'all have access to my videos, i'm not doing anything special that anyone else couldn't do ... particularly with those offshore box-stock investarms guns.

[Muley]

I don't know what he meant by fast. I know it wasn't fast when I shot it. I could always feel a very slight pause before the main charge went off. I was using 3F and I told him to use 3F when he shot it, but he used 4F. I may have to use 4F to just get it to what he calls not fast. I'm hoping his standards are so high that what he calls not fast might be fast to me.

He said he's shipping it Tues. I should be able to try it by the end of the week.

[RobD]

this is what i consider "fast enuf" ...

[Ohio Joe]

That is an interesting statement, "but isn't fast"

Muley, it's been my experience that if one is use to shooting a caplock, it takes a few shots with their flintlock to realize the flinter is also fast.

I think it's more of a mind thing then anything else as we have that instant puff of white smoke as the powder begins to burn in the pan, then after a few shots we don't even give it a second thought as we're fully committed to concentrating on our sights.  I've noticed this with not only myself, but several friends over the years who also shoot cap and flintlocks. I'm to the point now that part of my flintlock ritual is reminding myself to concentrate solely on the sights when taking that first (and all) shots with a flintlock. After a few shots it just becomes second nature and we don't even realize we're shooting just as normal with the flintlock as we do with the caplock.  

Hope I explained that right / or at least my take on what "but isn't fast" may mean.

Rob, I would call your flintlock "fast!"

[Muley]

I know Joe, but Mark Campbell wouldn't shoot anything but flintlocks. He's built them from scratch for 43 years. I think what he calls fast for a flintlock might be really fast. What he calls not fast might still be fast for others.

At least that's my hope.

[Ohio Joe]

All so true!  It could refer to a lock being as polished and smooth as possible making it fast, and in as much where the GPR has the coil spring - it could be in reference to this is all the coil spring will give? I bet it's still fast.

[Muley]

Hope so.

Sorry for taking over the thread.

[JStanley]

Hope so.

Sorry for taking over the thread.

No worries Pete, it was all about the original topic & besides, I've really enjoyed everyone'a insights.