I shoot a Pedersoli 10 Ga. for Turkey and Waterfowl hunting. I can tell you what has worked for me. It may not be completely traditional, as I don't always use Black Powder,and use Remington Magnum 10 shot cups, but I'm trying. The best load so far has been with 100 gr. of Triple Seven and then a wonder wad, and on top of that I use the Remington cup with 1 1/2 oz. of nickel plated #6's and an overshot card. This load has a killing pattern out to 40 yards, I would not shoot anything past that with it. We also used nickel plated # 4 shot and also had similar result's. I have been shooting black powder rifles for many years, but am a novice with the shotguns. This site is a great place to learn what work's and to share information. Hope this helps.