twist rate of CVA mountain

[IronDawg]

I have a few questions regarding cva MT. RIFLES.

Mainly barrel twist rate or "usual standard" twist rate at what most of them are) As well as an idea of how much drop there is in the comb.

I have a  TC hawken here in 45 cal. The rifle shoots well. Even with the previous owner not taking real good care of it and with the 1:48 twist....... it still deals with a .440 round ball quite nicely out to 100yds.

My issues aren't the rifle even though she's been "well used" my issues are the stock. I'm an ex MMA guy. My orbital socket has been crushed a couple times and my cheek bone broke as well there's scar tissue up there beneath my cheek bone. The TC stock actually rides right up beneath my cheekbone in order to get my head down on the sites. What this causes is a feeling close to someone accidentally elbowing you under your cheek bone everytime I pull the trigger.

Not good. My southern mt. doesn't get close to it. Neither does my great plains.

Now I know there's aftermarket stocks and such. And believe me if it was a 32, a 36, or a 50 caliber?? I would go that route. But I have a 40 and a 44 already, so having this 45 cal also is sorta silly when there's other calibers out there I want worse..

So instead of having a rifle thats uncomfortable to shoot I offered it up for trade. A friend of mine in Indiana has a CVA mountain rifle in 50 cal percussion. He also has every caliber of TC hawken ACCEPT 45. and he wants to swap.

But he can't tell me off hand (he's not at home) what the rifling twist is, or if there's more drop to the comb on the CVA than his TC hawkens,

I have no experience with CVA sidelocks so I don't know if they have a decent lock, are a decent gun or even if they come with a barrel that accepts roundballs well.  

Any notions, info, hints, ideas or directions you guys could send me in would be much apreciated.

[BEAVERMAN]

Captchees the man to talk to about CVA, hes worked on many and has restocked more than a few

[Bigsmoke]

Most if not all of the CVA Mt. Rifles were 1:66 twist, from what I have seen.
The lock on the Mt. Rifle is typical CVA, pretty good except for the mainspring, which has a tendency to get awful weak after a bit.

[hawkeye]

I believe most CVA rifles have a 1-66 twist. IMHO, the CVA Mountain Rifle is a great looking rifle. The best one that CVA made. They are not near the quality of a USA made Thompson Center though.

[BEAVERMAN]

ID how is your barrel marked on it? do you know if it's an older CVA or not?

[hawkeye]

Didn't some early CVA Mountain Rifles have Douglas made barrels?

[BEAVERMAN]

Thats why I'm asking!

[ridjrunr]

Yup, If its stamped MADE IN USA it is a Douglas.

[Hank in WV]

Mark, I have one of the more modern Mt Rifles. On mine, the drop at the heel is 3 1/8 and at the comb is 1 1/4. 1:66 twist. This rifle will shoot right alongside my Rice barreled rifle. Just took a lot longer to break in.

[IronDawg]

OK so I should expect or guess it's going to be 1-66. Thats the same as my lyman and my lyman loves round balls. So thats good.

And from the sounds she has a decent drop to the stock as well.

As far as the make On the barrel I dunno. I should find out tonite.

And yes I sort of figured CVA was not going to be on par with a thompson center. But it can be the most well made finest looking rifle in the world. If it's not comfortable for me to shoot?? I won't shoot it and it will just sit in the corner. no use in that.

[Uncle Russ]

ID, I agree with a couple of things.

I believe you will find your rifle to have a 1:66 twist.
I believe you will find the CVA MTN Rifle to be one of the sweetest, easy to carry and shoot rifles, you could ever pick up.
And, I also believe you're right when you said something to the effect that if it don't fit right, it could well end up sitting in a corner.

It is not a T/C by any means, but it is one sweet rifle.

If you can live with out that T/C, I would not hesitate a NASCAR second in trading it off!

I'm sure there are many who will disagree with me on this, and that's the very reason we have more flavors of Ice-Cream that just Vanilla.

Uncle Russ...

[hawkeye]

I wouldn't turn down the CVA Mountain Rifle. I think it's a better looking gun than the T/C Hawken.  I just don't play with cap guns anymore (my Colt 1861 rifled musket excluded). And I totally agree that the best gun in the world is worthless if it doesn't feel right.

[Uncle Russ]

I wouldn't turn down the CVA Mountain Rifle. I think it's a better looking gun than the T/C Hawken.  I just don't play with cap guns anymore (my Colt 1861 rifled musket excluded). And I totally agree that the best gun in the world is worthless if it doesn't feel right.

David, I still got the moulds for that riflegun of your's!

 :rotf

I agree with David...If I were to own a cap gun again I would want it to be another 1861 Colt. That dog will hunt!

Uncle Russ...

[IronDawg]

Oh I can definately live without it! Never been much on name brands. I mean in some things they mean something. others they don't. I've always been more along the lines of what works best for me. I own several (14) thompson center firearms, if we include barrels So I know they are extremely well put together and crafted weapons..

But to be honest if someone woulda offered me a traditions crockett 32 or shenandoah 36? I woulda went that route as well. doesn't matter if I'm trading up or down, just matters if I'm getting a caliber or rifle I need more. Right now my squirrel gun is a squirrel MANGLER! So I woulda went for a lil gun as well.

I actually even thought about exchanging the stock out for a nice full stock with more drop. But again like I said if it woulda been a 50?? I may have. But I have already have several  40 sumpin calibers and want a few more 50 sumpin calibers.

And think I'd rather wait and put that stock money towards an honest to goodness good kit thats gonna make me the rifle I really wanna carry everytime I go to the woods.

Only gots one flinter right now. I want another one real bad. But gotta learn how ta use em a bit more better first. My next flinter will be a 50 sumpin caliber. Thought about 50, but also thought "I fthis deal goes through I'll have 50 and 54 in percussion....... so why not 58 in flint?

whatsa 1861 colt? pistol?

[BEAVERMAN]

why not?