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Author Topic: Underhammers unwelcome?  (Read 2824 times)

Offline Kermit

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Underhammers unwelcome?
« on: October 14, 2010, 10:16:49 PM »
Seems another forum only wants discussion of "sidelocks." Before I bring it up (again?) here, should I take that part of my interest elsewhere?

No judgements, no worries here. Just need to know.  :?
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2010, 10:24:10 PM »
Discuss all ya want...under hammers are not a modern idea.  They fit well within the TMA guidelines.  If ya do a search, you may find some old threads on the subject...
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2010, 10:28:44 PM »
Bring it on!
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2010, 11:24:22 PM »
Underhammers - the Studebakers of muzzleloading.
I'd have no problem with your talking about them.  Heck, I almost bought Pacific Rifle Works some time back.  I really liked Roger's Zephyr rifle.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2010, 08:12:02 AM »
i dont recall anyone here having an issue with underhammers  being discussed .
 they are period

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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2010, 09:41:58 AM »
Yes they are ,Kermit start singing I love under hammers
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2010, 11:18:39 AM »
I have no problem with a lack of support for underhammers, since there's a statement--which I admit I'd forgotten--that they are dedicated to "sidelock" firearms. I just wanted to be sure I wasn't crossing any forum lines here. I participate in a bunch of forums, some more, some less, and appreciate each and every one. Heck, I make visits to a forum limited to Chevrolet in-line (sorry for that word!) six cylinders.

I suspected that since caplock revolvers were part of this forum, that less common period guns were covered here.

I've got an underhammer coming into my life at some point. Colerain is making me a 12ga barrel with a breechplug for an underhammer action, and John Taylor has the action waiting for fitting. This is probably in the realm of "fantasy guns," but then so are most of my flinters since they are not copies of originals, but more based on...

After that shotgun/fowling piece I'm already thinking of a light smallbore for my wife. She's small and experiencing the effects of arthritis, so she's only shooting rimfire these days. She also doesn't care for the flinter flash, so I'm thinking a nifty little underhammer might be the ticket. Sort of in the style of guns I've seen be Brent Gurtek who puts great furniture and inlays on his.

Anyway, thanks for the reality check! :shake
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2010, 12:59:39 PM »
Kermit here is the 50 cal that Capt built for me a few years back. Sweet gun joy to shoot.




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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2010, 04:52:32 PM »
Kermit,
I really like the underhammers. I have a 12 ga trap gun, a chunk gun, an offhand rifle and a switch barrel for my grandson that goes from 20 ga to .36. All of these are on H&A or Deer Creek actions.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2010, 07:09:36 PM »
Quote from: "W. Welshman"
Kermit here is the 50 cal that Capt built for me a few years back. Sweet gun joy to shoot.





That's about the prettiest rifle I have seen, not to mention underhammer!!

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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2010, 07:24:11 PM »
Smokinbuck! Got photos???
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2010, 08:08:11 PM »
Kermit,
I do have photos but can't post them. I can send them to you if youwant to see them or post them for me.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2010, 08:15:58 PM »
Smoke!
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2010, 08:18:03 AM »
I have no problem with  underhammers , if a deal came along  i'd have one myself! I think the Studerbaker  term is good , they were a little ahead of their time .
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2010, 01:59:41 PM »
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This old H&A .45 was my very first ML.  We've had many adventures together and it is still a tack driver.  It must be around 45 years old.  American made back in those days.  It's a bit worse for wear and has had a couple of "fixings" but is hanging together.
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