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Next step
« on: May 31, 2011, 01:02:37 PM »
Ok the next step in my fowler build is the barrel tennons. Silver solder, low temp silver solder, 50/50 lead solder, tin barrel and tennon before soldering together, solder with barrel tennons facing down so solder doesn't run all over barrel, use lead pencil to keep solder off barrel when soldering?  Been net surfing and this is part of what I came up with. What do you fine gunsmiths reccomend? I only have two tennons  to install so I don't need a 20 year supply of expensive supplies, so appreciate info on small quantities of whatever solder/heat source I need to gitterdone. :)
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Re: Next step
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2011, 04:47:56 PM »
I tin mine both pieces,clamp in place, then cut a small nugget of solder and set next to the outside leg of each side of the tennon, then draw the solder in from the opposite side like sweating a pipe, done face up, no reason to fight gravity!
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Re: Next step
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2011, 09:21:07 AM »
Thanks Jim, what type solder and torch type?
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Re: Next step
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2011, 11:28:28 AM »
I have use a plumbers torch with mapp gas, just be quick with cooling the area with a wet rag, that barrel is a huge heat sink! silver solder works just fine
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Re: Next step
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2011, 05:03:32 PM »
I pretty much use the same system as Jim but use 50/50 solder with no problems. Be sure to re-oil the barrel after cooling.
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Re: Next step
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2011, 09:44:16 AM »
Myself I  set the location for the  lugs . Then I tin the barrel and tin the  lug  using good silver solder “stay bright “
 Then I set the  lug in place  and heat tell the lug settles  to the barrel .  Let cool . Any clean up can be done simply and easily with a sharp blade .

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Re: Next step
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2011, 11:46:34 AM »
Thanks for the info guys, I tinned the barrel and tennons, and front turtle site. They all stuck  good and I'm on my way to browning the barrel now! Have decided to leave butt plate,side plate and nose cap bright for now. Kit came with a front sling swivel but I will just use a tied on sling when I need it. I won't put swivel on. When this barrel gets pinned to the stock, that's it, it won't come off again. Will wax stock under barrel heavy and under butt plate also, per advice I have received here. Will def measure thrice and drill once for those narrow tennons! Have to pick up a coupla good wood files to do nose cap install, then it's sand, sand, sand. Thanks troops, for advice!
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Re: Next step
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2011, 06:56:02 AM »
Sounds like it's comeing along Quite nicely. You will be dun in plenty of time for huntn. :rt th
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Re: Next step
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2011, 06:54:54 AM »
Well I browned the barrel and fitted the thimbles to the stock. The ramrod looks like a garter snake crossing the road! What a time inletting the entry thimble. Left the ramrod in the stock to try and set it straight, but will probably have to soak it and use an arrow straightener on it. Have decided to brown all the iron now, I may inlet the lock side plate, but not the trigger guard. Have a lot of thinnin' to do on the stock and have to choose stain color to use. It is a plain maple stock, so I just want a good med dark color. Hoping to have it ready for Oct hunting season.  :horse
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