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Author Topic: Tulle- Iron or Brass?  (Read 1406 times)

Offline Adam Wetherington

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Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« on: February 20, 2012, 05:26:32 PM »
Hey guys, I'm going to be putting a kit together for my friend for his college graduation. He want's a Tulle since his ancestors were French-Canadian but he doesn't know whether to get it with brass or iron hardware. I can't give him an answer since Tulle's aren't really my thing and I don't have any literature on them. It's not meant to be 100% HC since he isn't in to reenacting or anything but since it is an option, he want's to know which is the better choice historically.

Any help?

Thanks.

Adam
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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2012, 07:22:00 PM »
Have him watch the video in this post:
http://www.traditionalmuzzleloadingasso ... 66&t=16828
Both kinds of hardware are discussed.
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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2012, 08:43:13 PM »
Based on existing examples, iron furniture is the most correct for a basic hunting fusil from Tulle.

Brass is found on other guns (fusils de traite, etc).

Anyone interested in pre-1760 French guns should own a copy of The French Trade Gun in North America: 1662-1759 by Kevin Gladysz.



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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2012, 08:46:09 PM »
Sorry. Double post.
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Offline Adam Wetherington

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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2012, 09:48:39 PM »
Gracias.
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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2012, 08:39:59 AM »
Just for the heck of it you might mention to him that Tulle is a town in France and an armoury not realy a type of French gun, many are not aware of this so the missnomenclature goes on and the suppliers go along with it unfortunately.
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Offline James Kelly

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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2012, 02:13:36 PM »
Here is my brass mounted Caywood Type D
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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2012, 03:30:40 PM »
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Here is my brass mounted Caywood Type D

As an FYI, what we know as the Type c/d French guns were not fusils de chasse, nor were they made in Tulle. They were fusils de traite and generally made in St. Etienne.

Mario
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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2012, 03:56:29 PM »
I'm just going to try to make fusil de redneck since he wants a French style gun and I'm far from an accomplished gunbuilder...lol.
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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2012, 07:23:24 PM »
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I'm just going to try to make fusil de redneck since he wants a French style gun and I'm far from an accomplished gunbuilder...lol.
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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2012, 10:59:02 PM »
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I'm just going to try to make fusil de redneck since he wants a French style gun and I'm far from an accomplished gunbuilder...lol.


Where you putting the bottle opener?

Mario
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Offline Adam Wetherington

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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2012, 06:56:48 AM »
Front of the triggerguard....it's more convienient there I think.
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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2012, 08:52:40 AM »
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As an FYI, what we know as the Type c/d French guns were not fusils de chasse, nor were they made in Tulle. They were fusils de traite and generally made in St. Etienne.

Mario

Thanks for the details, Mario.  My French is not the best, "Fusils de Traite" is a trade smoothbore?
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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2012, 03:43:02 PM »
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As an FYI, what we know as the Type c/d French guns were not fusils de chasse, nor were they made in Tulle. They were fusils de traite and generally made in St. Etienne.

Mario

Thanks for the details, Mario.  My French is not the best, "Fusils de Traite" is a trade smoothbore?

Yup. Fusil being the period French term for a smoothbore gun that uses a flint lock.

Fusil de chasse = "gun for the hunt" (In modern French this is a "shotgun")

Fusil de traite = "gun for the trade"

Mario
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Re: Tulle- Iron or Brass?
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2012, 08:07:43 PM »
And do not forget the Fusil de Calcutta... the French gun from  India
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