Hawken Flintlocks?

[Muley]

You can't use a .22 here for deer.

I'm leaving for the range now to try again. I used lead to hold the flint. I pounded out a ball for the lead. A little bigger hole in the liner. (5/64) Plus, a few new ideas I want to try.

My fingers are crossed.

[greyhunter]

You'll get it Muley, ya got the hair of the bear on you! Lots of good tips I see been coming your way.  

[shootrj2003]

Miley,
  I'll say this until this year,my BP hunting was mostly done with a capper,I had flinters but used them mostly on the range  once in a while, and surely not in inclement weather,I was stuck on the idea they were way unreliable,,Truth is ,I was way unreliable just a learning curve that I just would would not go into.I'm still into the curve but my feelings about flints have have increased exponentially along with the reliability of the rifles I own,last few years was a Blueridge .36 given to me by a dead friend and this year a Lyman GPR .50 which is my coyote rifle right now but a deer rifle this season coming.Mostly just getting over the false idea that they are not. Dependable.

[pathfinder]

You can't use a .22 here for deer.

Here either,but we were talking deer taken to feed you when times were TOUGH!  When your "life" depend's on it,you use whatever you have to to insure you eat. And if it's THAT important to make meat,I'd use a bazooka if I had one,flintlock bazooka,of course! Hee Hee!

                                             Be well!
                                                          Pathfinder

Ps,how goes the adventure with the flinter,still have it or were you able to get the caplock?

[Cannonball]

However simply put what they were making was a Plains rifle also know a sporting rifle . A style not specifically unique to Hawkens.

So Cap, my T/C "Hawken" is actually referred to as a "Sporting" Rifle or "Plains" Rifle? Thanks that helps. I also hadn't realized how late in the era this style gun was popular. Nice to know so I don't have issues at rendevous' that have higher expectations of accuracy.

I think this leads to a new thread in another area of the forum.  

[rollingb]

Cannonball,... here are a few parts from Track of the Wolf, that will allow your TC to more closely resemble the old sporting rifles.

Steel trigger guard,........
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categorie ... -HAWK-TC-I
Steel butt plate
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categorie ... /BP-TC-H-I
Steel forend cap
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categorie ... -TC-R-15-I
Flint lock
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categorie ... CK-LR-03-F

Also add a non-adjustable rear sight, and plain blade front sight, to your TC (check out the sights available from Track of the Wolf),.... and you will be on your way to having a TC that more closely resembles the "sporting rifles",... and/or "plains rifles", like the ones pictured in Captchee's link below......
http://www.texasguntrade.com/texassportingrifles.htm

[shootrj2003]

Muley,
 I thought about it for awhile and it hit me,did you take your bundle of sweet grass and light it it and let the smoke coat it real good before the hunt?when things like this happen,with no good explanation it helps to cover your bases with the old ways!I do it the night before and in the morning before the sun comes up(hey,can't hurt!)

[greggholmes]

This is the conversion kit from the hawkens shop.
http://www.daytraco.com/Products/Four-piece-conversion-kit__F4.aspx

[RobD]

... However, in today's economy. I now need the meat too. A nice elk will feed me for a long time. ...

having shot both cap and rock locks since the mid 60's.  "reliability" hasta do mostly with gear and gear user - both need to be in accord, and there are pitfalls to overcome for both, but one *MUST* train and practice until both the machine and operator can acquire 99% reliability.  that could take a few weeks, but preparation efforts and time well spent.

best of luck to ya!  

[sse]

... However, in today's economy. I now need the meat too. A nice elk will feed me for a long time. ...

well, for hunting reliablity another olde tyme way, there's always moving up notch to a bpcr rifle!  :rt th  



having shot both cap and rock locks since the mid 60's.  "reliability" hasta do mostly with gear and gear user - both need to be in accord, and there are pitfalls to overcome for both, but one *MUST* train and practice until both the machine and operator can acquire 99% reliability.  that could take a few weeks, but preparation efforts and time well spent.

best of luck to ya!  

[RobD]

oopsie!

[Riley/MN]

... However, in today's economy. I now need the meat too. A nice elk will feed me for a long time. ...

well, for hunting reliablity another olde tyme way, there's always moving up notch to a bpcr rifle!  :rt th  



having shot both cap and rock locks since the mid 60's.  "reliability" hasta do mostly with gear and gear user - both need to be in accord, and there are pitfalls to overcome for both, but one *MUST* train and practice until both the machine and operator can acquire 99% reliability.  that could take a few weeks, but preparation efforts and time well spent.

best of luck to ya!  

Sweet, yes. Inappropriate for our forum however. rfd, you are new here, so no problem, but please refrain from the posting of modern (suppository) firearms. Thanks

[RobD]

Sweet, yes. Inappropriate for our forum however. rfd, you are new here, so no problem, but please refrain from the posting of modern (suppository) firearms. Thanks

my bad, mea culpa, i apologize.

[Riley/MN]

No problems...

[sse]

whoops