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Offline Cannonball

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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2013, 02:44:17 PM »
That's cool Prairie Dog.
Don't get me wrong... I know to check at events prior to attending. I guess my question is with all the other relaxed rules at a lot of rendezvous' why do most organizers seem to be strict with this issue. In other words I went to one where there were no issues with anything from F&I to 1840 personas (including campers and rv's) and no issues for any gun as long as it wasn't a inline but when it came to the archery range they said no modern laminated recurves or american longbows and no plastic nocks or field points. I'm like really??? So I was just curious that's all.

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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2013, 02:57:36 PM »
prairie dog......Personally, I certainly like your thinking!

IMO, It only through those who share your frame of mind that such a get together can ever be truly termed successful.
And, that same frame of mind will attract others much faster, and in greater numbers, than the most stringent rules could ever dream of.

There are contests for those who insist that everyone should be living and playing by some really strong rules, and there are contests for those who simply want only to participate, and still be a part of the crowd.
As for myself, and many I personally know, we always choose the later crowd. And once we discover it is otherwise, we don't go back.

Keep up the good work!
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Offline Cannonball

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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2013, 04:02:16 PM »
I'm guessing that's the key Russ, finding that group of people that I enjoy speding time hanging out with and then picking the events that I want to attend. If it ain't fun then don't do it has always been my motto...

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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2013, 07:18:07 PM »
When I was young I would have enjoyed the hardcore rules, competition, and "proving myself" that some groups do.

 I am a little more relaxed these days.  I have to be, at my age and level of decrepitude, I got no other way to be.   :Doh!
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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2013, 07:22:52 PM »
'Primitive Archery' can indeed take the place of other activities that
were in fact a part of the historical Rendezvous that would most likely
be found unacceptable at today's events.  It adds some variety to the venues
like some other activities that have been added.

Original activities most likely now frowned upon:

Hand to hand fighting
Prostitution
Horse races ( with few rules!)
Over indulgence of alcohol ( well maybe that one still might sneak in  :shock: )

Activities added to the modern events

Old Timer shoots
Squirrel gun Shoots
Jack & Jill relay races
'Coulter Run' or similar relay events
Primitive Archery
Cooking Competitions (not any historical evidence of this in the original - but of course they did EAT!)

Your can add more to either list as you see fit

The big thing for me is:

Draw more people with more events and have more fun!

The really PC/HC events actually have a much smaller attendance as far as I can tell.
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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2013, 10:56:25 AM »
Quote from: "Fletcher"

Original activities most likely now frowned upon:

Hand to hand fighting
Prostitution
Horse races ( with few rules!)
Over indulgence of alcohol ( well maybe that one still might sneak in  :shock: )


What's the matter Fletch, don'tcha wanna have fun enymore...?
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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2013, 05:15:19 PM »
Love to have fun yes.....

But since those original Rondy days it seems like year after year the gummint
continues to make more and more things unlawful - while approving more and
more things that should be unconscionable.

Also there is the legal liabilities.

In those days mountain men were afraid of being opposed by the Sioux
Now days folks are afraid of being sued by the opposition !!!   :Doh!
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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2013, 07:16:21 PM »
Well said Fletch!
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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2013, 08:36:37 PM »
"trad archery" is easy to define in this new millennium - essentially, a stick and a string.  

don't matter if the stick part is one piece or more, or what it's made outta or what's its shape or cross section or whether the arrows rides a knuckle or rest or shelf.  and as long as its string is held, drawn and released by the physically direct efforts of the archer (hands, or hand/teeth for physically challenged archers), it's "trad".  neither does the arrow shaft or fletching material matter.  however, for trad bowhunting, only a cut on contact broadhead is "trad" - mech heads are *not* trad.  the bowstring is easiest to understand, and it only contacts either the limb tips (longbow) or limb tips and limb ends (recurve).

one can divvy up trad archery into more specific categories such as selfbows (primitive), natural material backed selfbows, and man made composites (glass, carbon, ceramic backing, facing and cored limbs ... wood, plastic and metal risers).

trad bows can be aimed "instinctively" (as in throwing a baseball or tossing a dart), or with "soft sights" (using the arrow point as an aiming reference) or with "hard sights" (a bowsight - marks on the upper limb face, or an aiming pin held by tape, or a $400 FITA olympic sight with bubble level and variable apertures).

most of all, trad archery is pure ancestral fun ... and can put meat on the table when necessary.

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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2013, 09:56:19 PM »
This is what I shoot, Nothing fancy, not expensive. And she can shoot.

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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2013, 12:33:46 AM »
Joe,  this looks a lot like the flatbows that I make for Rondys.  It is a good design.  The shelf cut-in
is a bit different.  That would not be allowed at quite a few primitive events, but probably not a big
deal at Club level events.  The string silencer also may not be allowed.

What events have you participated in?  How about pics of your arrows?
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Offline Carolina Joe

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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2013, 01:27:38 PM »
Fletcher, I have not had the oppurtinity to make it to any events as of yet. I do take the bow to the range and hunting as well. As for the arrows I shoot the new gold tip tradtional design with feathers. I would love to find someone on the forum who could make me some primitive arrows.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2013, 03:27:10 PM by Carolina Joe »

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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2013, 02:24:26 PM »
Quote from: "Carolina Joe"
I would love to find someone on the forum who could make me some primitive arrows.

I think you just did....
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Offline Carolina Joe

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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2013, 03:06:58 PM »
Ah man, that's what i'm talking about. PM sent

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Re: "Traditional Archery"
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2013, 03:23:10 PM »
Quote from: "Carolina Joe"
Fletcher, I have not had the oppurtinity to make it to any events as of yet. I do talke the bow to the range and hunting as well. As for the arrows I shoot the new gold tip tradtional desgn with feathers. I would love to find someone on the forum who could make me some primitive arrows.

Joe, my friend, Fletcher The Arrow Maker, invented the arrow back in the day....the guys that came out with this new thing called a "wheel", they sought counsel with Fletcher when it came to truing up their new invention.

He can make you arrows that will come back to you, so you don't have to walk out and get 'em.  ;)
I think he's still working on the speed at which they do come back, but he'll likely work that out.

Well, truthfully, I've only had one such arrow to come back at me, and being the young, nimble, quick responsive fellow I am, I managed to get out of the way.

You're in luck if you need Traditional Bow "stuff"....Fletch is your go-to-guy.

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