My Latest Renegade

[Uncle Russ]

I agree about the bore butter, but as hard as it gets in cold weather it might work.  

Uncle Russ...

[Muley]

I've used the mink oil from TOW for the last couple of years. It stays nice and soft in cold weather.

Before that I tried all kinds of moose milk formulas.

[Uncle Russ]

Again, I gotta agree with you Muley.

There's at least as many formulas for Moose Milk as there are shooters, and each shooter seems to have their own favorite.

I suspect I have tried most, even some I dreamed up myself thinking this was the sure fire cure for all that ails, even many that I felt certain would improve my off-hand scores....but none of that happened, so I went back to the basis and I've never had reason to look back.

Still yet, things are looking up!
There is nowhere near the amount of magic formulas on the market today as there was just 10 / 15 years ago.
And, all the magic potions from the late 60's and early 70's seem to have all but disappeared, as we no longer need to mix our lube during a full moon, at high tide, with just the right amount of Bat droppings.

In fact, there's some pretty good commercial stuff out there, and a fella should find something he likes and stick with it. I'm thinking the Mink Oil you mentioned is a fine place to start if someone is just getting started in his search for that "just right" lube.

Of course, the old fashioned "spit-ballers" look at us out of the corner of their eye, while thinking we are all just a bunch of idiots on the search for the Holy Grail of tight groups, when they've know the secret all along.  

And that my friend is just as it should be in these old eyes.

Uncle Russ...

[Muley]

I've always wondered what happens to a spit patch in cold weather? I've used them at the range when I was going to shoot right away, but never for hunting.

[Bigsmoke]

Muley,
I'll tell you what happened to me one day.
I was at a shoot where we all should have known better and stayed home in front of a fire with a nice hot buttered.  This was probably the late 1970's sometime when I was young and dumb.  (as opposed to now when I am now older and probalby less smarter.  But no, we just had to brave that sub zero degree day and go shooting.  If memory serves me correctly, (doubtful, but anyway) I was shooting a .62 caliber smoothy that day, using spit lube and a ticking patch.  So, I take the patch out of my mouth, center it on the barrel, set the ball on it and give the short starter a rap with my hand.  As I removed the short starter from the barrel, I happened to notice a little flat blue and white doughnut stuck on the long leg of the starter.  What the heck, I thought.  Sure enough, it punched right through the patch.  Evidently the patch froze to the barrel and the force of me hitting the starter ball broke the patch.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
John

[Muley]

Ouch! Just a bit too cold.

[sse]

On a woods walk or on the range, I use spit in all weather and temps.  When hunting, I use BB or something else that won't either freeze or cause rust.

[Muley]

I worked out a load today. This turned out to be the sweet spot.

.490 ball
.015 patch
mink oil for patch lube
80gr Olde Eynsford

Loads very tight, and absolutely have to swab between shots. This is my hunting load, but I shoot my hunting loads for target shooting. From a bench I was getting 1" groups at 50yds. I hate shooting from a bench, and only do it for sighting in a gun. Everything is offhand now.

[gacop]

I just bought this gun for hunting bear, muley's, and elk. I haven't received it yet, and I hope it looks as good in hand as it does in pictures. It appears to be well taken care of. I had a renegade before, and I put the 1-70 GM barrel on it. I wish I could do that with this gun too, but those barrels are not to be found anymore. GM stopped making them, and everybody who stocked them have sold out. Too bad it was a great addition to the Renegade.

I bought some tung oil, and I thought i'd give it some protection and perk it up a bit.

Anyway, here she is.

 One good lookin rifle!  :th up

[Hanshi]

The Renegade simply has it all over the Hawken IMO.

[Muley]

I like them, because I shoot left handed, and I don't have to deal with a cheek piece on the wrong side. Plus, I like the shorter 1" barrel for the .50 cal.

Hawken doesn't have any of this. I guess the Renegade would fit in the category of a trade gun in the old days. A simple workhorse, but kills them just as dead.

[Uncle Russ]

The Renegade simply has it all over the Hawken IMO.

 
    I feel the same, even though it hasn't always been that way.

There was a time when the Renegade cost a little over one-half the price of a new Hawken, and the Hawken still out sold the Renegade by a large margin.

Personally, I even prefer the New Englander by T/C over the Hawken because of its  simplicity.

It's too bad these nice rifles have been discontinued.
I personally believe there would be more of a market today for the Renegade and the New Englander, than there was back in the day they were being produced.
But that is only one person's opinion.

Uncle Russ...

[buffalo pony]

You will not regret that purchase. I shoot a T/C Renegade in .54 and it has on more than one occasion shot better than a Lyman and a Pedrosolli, the best thing is the butt plate is not curved to the point of having to spikes that you have to nuzzle your shoulder into. I would send a photo of the rifle and shot groups I get with 80 grains
but I have no idea how you put pictures on here???

[gacop]

That's one fine lookin rifle!

[Muley]

I really lucked out with this Renegade. It's my 4th one, and none of them were that good with a hunting load PRB. One was so bad I replaced the barrel with a Green Mountain 1-70. This gun loves heavy PRB loads with the stock barrel. I never thought a shallow groove 1-48 twist barrel could shoot a PRB this good.

I've bought some real duds in the past. It's nice to get a good one for a change.

Mike Fink is happy too. I came close to giving him a new part in his scalp.