Kids size rifle

[Lonewolfe20]

I saw some pictures of a child's size rifle couldn't tell if it was 44 or a 30's caliber
It was a shorter rifle

I have a 9 year old who wants to shoot bp but can't consistently hold the rifle and aim

Does anyone know of anything that would work

Thanks

[gunmaker]

Well you can get or make a pair of cross sticks.  Tie two 1" sticks together about 3-4 in. from one end, that'll be the top.  Sit the child down behind sticks shoved in ground little ways.  You load rifle (with a very lite powder charge to start)  forearm of gun on sticks, child shoulders gun with elbows supported on knees with legs bent up heels together.  This is a very steady position and sticks hold up gun.  When they have sites lined up on target--you cap or prime and !!!bang!!!   I taught all five of ours like this starting at age 4, yes 4. a CVA frontier .50 cal 26" bbl.  You can buy a short little gun with a pull of 11"-12" but they grow fast, soon little gun is in the corner.   The other way is from a chair behind a table, with gun forearm on a rest, elbows on table.  Thats how we site in rifles....If you know all this already, well just my thoughts....Get those kids shooting...Tom

[Riley/MN]

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Something like this?

[Lonewolfe20]

That is a real looker there Riley
Did you make that
Great advise gunmaker I will have to fashion up some sticks to help

[Riley/MN]

No, We stopped in at a trade gun class being given by my friend Brent Gurtek. This is a gun he had built - I think he said it was for a nephew. Madilyn seemed to like it...

[gunmaker]

Riley, could we maybe see some pics of that sweet little shooter ?  I have a .410 bbl. that I want to make a 1/2 scale "starter" gun for kids......Tom

[Hanshi]

Now that's cute.

[Riley/MN]

I didn't get much for pictures, but I will see if Brent has some "up close" ones

[Brent Gurtek]

I'll get some photos of the little gun on the TMA soon.  It's actually a smoothbore of a rather odd size - .607".  Ed Rayl made the barrel and I have another identical barrel as I need to make another kids smoothbore.  They're used for clay pigeons at youth shooting expos put on by a local conservation groups.

Brent

[Lonewolfe20]

Awesome looking forward to
Seeing it a little better

[gunmaker]

Thanks Brent,  thats what I'm after a little .410 to get the babies out shooting.....Tom

[Captchee]

you looking for production or custom ?
 production wise there isnt much  unless you run across one of the smaller TC , Tradions or CVA rifles .

past that  you have alot of choices .
Ray Franks  has some smaller guns
here are some of my revamps of production guns .







and somewhere i have a little .410 NW trade gun i did  for the young man in the 2nd photo

[Captchee]

It looks like that when my PC crashed last month , i lost the photos of the little NW gun .
 but here is a link to the vedio of  when we gave it to John .
and yes  i miss spoke . after watching the vedio i had to go look it up . it is .460./ 46 cal smooth

[gunmaker]

Thats a well armed young man.....Tom

[Brent Gurtek]

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Brent