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Offline peterh

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Brown bess
« on: January 23, 2017, 06:11:25 PM »
I am thinking of buying a brown bess, as i have a very limted income for things that go bang(my other hobby needs money as well).  I am thing of buying the 3rd model from Loyalist arms as at $599 it is just in my price range.
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2017, 07:07:09 PM »
A word of caution Peter,.... I've "heard" (not ever owning one myself) that those guns imported from India are of pretty low quality (some people think they even verge on "DANGEROUS").
Other folks who've bought one, said they've had to return 4 or 5 guns in order to get 1 that was serviceable.

Again,... that's just what I've heard "through the grape vine",.... and thought I'd let you know.  :rt th
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2017, 08:47:29 PM »
I'm in Rondo's camp on this. I've heard the same thing and it's that dangerous part that moves me away from getting one of those.

I really think they're use is more geared to the Hollywood movie props myself. I just don't know if I'd trust a charge in one of 'em.   :shake
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2017, 09:55:57 PM »
Save up just a couple hundred more and get a used Pedersoli bess.
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2017, 10:04:07 PM »
I've looked at the Pedersoli
And they are kinda hit and miss on the finish of them
I looked at 3 and thought one was done very nice but the other two had a lot of proud wood around the lock and trigger guard etc
But the quality was there in parts
That's was at a local Cabela's
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2017, 10:07:36 PM »
From what I've heard their finish is way above the typical Indian made gun. Side by side pictures of them and the various Indian guns shows a lot more excess wood on the Indian ones. If the Pedersoli finish disappoints you I doubt you'll be happy with the Indian ones.
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2017, 10:09:57 PM »
Side by side there is no comparison
I would go Pedersoli
Plus I think it would hold its value better later on in life
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2017, 10:15:00 PM »
Quote from: "Lonewolfe20"
Side by side there is no comparison
I would go Pedersoli
Plus I think it would hold its value better later on in life
That's for sure!  :hairy
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2017, 10:55:48 PM »
Maybe see if Matt has any smoothbore kits left up there at North Star West?  Unless it has to be a bess?

How about a build? Parts from Track of the Wolf?
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2017, 11:05:40 PM »
Quote from: "Ohio Joe"
Maybe see if Matt has any smoothbore kits left up there at North Star West?  Unless it has to be a bess?

How about a build? Parts from Track of the Wolf?

Well, doesn't look like Matt is taking anymore orders at this time because of health issues, and I didn't realize the price of these have went up quite a bit. Not taking anything away from NSW, they're a heck of a trade gun for sure!
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2017, 11:12:45 PM »
Quote from: "Ohio Joe"
Maybe see if Matt has any smoothbore kits left up there at North Star West?  Unless it has to be a bess?

How about a build? Parts from Track of the Wolf?
Pecatonica River Long Rifles, has Northwest Trade Gun "parts and components" for $528.00
They also have "parts and Components" for an Early Fullstock Fowler,.... though I don't see a total price for those.
Northwest or Trade Gun, Pecatonica River Long Rifle Supply
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2017, 11:13:58 PM »
Do you have any experience with pecatonica I have looked at their website acouple times
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2017, 11:19:34 PM »
Quote from: "rollingb"
Quote from: "Ohio Joe"
Maybe see if Matt has any smoothbore kits left up there at North Star West?  Unless it has to be a bess?

How about a build? Parts from Track of the Wolf?
Pecatonica River Long Rifles, has Northwest Trade Gun "parts and components" for $528.00
They also have "parts and Components" for an Early Fullstock Fowler,.... though I don't see a total price for those.
Northwest or Trade Gun, Pecatonica River Long Rifle Supply

That's not bad at all for a trade gun kit!

Pecatonica River Long Rifles has been a round for some time. Can't say as I ever heard anything negative about them. :lt th
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2017, 11:28:12 PM »
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Do you have any experience with pecatonica I have looked at their website acouple times
I've never bought anything from them,... but I've seen some pretty nice stuff built with their parts. (especially their gun stocks  :rt th)
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Re: Brown bess
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2017, 12:13:17 AM »
As I read over the prices, I believe that does not include the price of their stocks for each muzzle loader.
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