Mike, I haven't read the entire thread, so disregard if this is repetitious. I have a Pedersoli Cub, a wonderfully light and fast handling woods rifle. The only thing I have noticed is the rifling is very shallow, as I believe are other Pedersoli front loaders. As a result it does not like slick patches. It does much better with spit patches on the range. I am currently working on another project, but as soon as I'm done with that I intend to start working up a load for the Cub using Dutch's dry patch lube. That will be and excellent solution for a hunting AND range patch. Hope this helps some.