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Running Balls
RobD:
There are probably as many reasons for casting your muzzleloader's balls as there are for not bothering with that "chore" and just buying a box of swagged balls from Hornady or whomever. But, even if you only get to the range or afield just a few times a year, casting balls can be as much apart of the experience of traditional muzzleloading as the shooting part. The same can be said for making powder horns, ball boards, ramrods, guns, knives, period utensils and clothing, etc. It's the historic aspect along with the personal satisfaction of DIY.
It can be really Really REALLY cheap to cast balls for your gun(s) by just buying a mould and using a large spoon to melt range lead over a good campfire. That's period primitive, for sure. The next step up is to eliminate the campfire and use a small and cheap electric ladle furnace. The other end of the casting spectrum involves a large and costly PID furnace, along with sundry casting accoutrements. The in between of all these is a small 8lb to 10lb ladle furnace, lead ladle, and of course, a mould. No matter what casting gear is used, a pair of gloves and eye protection are mandatory.
Lotta good ways to cast, here's what I do for casting .575 pure lead balls for a smoothbore.
I cast for both traditional muzzleloader balls and BPCR .45-70 and .40-65 grease groove and paper patched bullets. For muzzleloader balls I use a small 8lb Lyman furnace and lead from Roto-Metals (online). The ladle is a Lyman, the aluminum double ball mould is from Lee Loading. A furnace thermometer isn't absolutely essential, but it takes the guesswork out of knowing when the lead is at the right temperature for casting. I also use a dollar store hard rubber mallet to whack the mould and sprue.
I use a pair of hefty leather gloves, safety glasses, heavy denim apron, leather boots, long pants and long sleeve shirt, all for protection. I made a "casting station" by rigging a large vent fan to a basement window. This fan sucks out all the fumes and smoke Fast and allows me to cast indoors. Without really good ventilation, casting Must be done outdoors.
The mould and ladle are left on the rim of the pot to heat up as the lead melts. I double up a #64 rubber band on the ends of the mould handle to keep a constant pressure on the mould halves, to insure good castings.
When the lead has melted, I put a 1/4 teaspoon of sawdust, or a pea sized piece of beeswax, into the pot as flux, stir, then skim off any of the slag with a spoon.
At 700F to 750F I begin casting and check to see the balls drop mirror shiny and smooth. If not, back in the pot, check the lead temperature, allow the mould to reheat, try again. By waiting until the pot comes up to temperature I can usually drop good balls on the first cast.
Balls are dropped on a soft, folded all COTTON towel - any synthetic material will melt!
After the last ball drops, I fill the mould up and let it cool. The mould is not opened, the ball is not removed and remains in the mould. When the mould is cold, it gets wrapped tightly in Glad "Press'n Seal" - this eliminates having to oil the mould to preserve it, and no de-oiling for the next casting session ... just unwrap the Press'n Seal, open the mould and remove the balls - ready to heat up for casting!
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The cast balls are weighed to make sure they're within +/- half to one grain, put in a plastic baggie with a few squirts of WD-40 to keep from oxidizing, or used to immediately load a ball board.
Lonewolfe20:
Great write up
I’ve never heard of leaving the mold full and wrapping it
I’ll be excited to cast a little this year and try that
rollingb:
:hairy That's pretty much how I do it too. :hairy
Sans the protective eye-wear, and extra clothing, though I DON'T recommend casting without either of those (but I do it anyway :)).
My casting "set-up" consists of a LOT of molds I've accumulated over the 50 years I've been casting, and two 20 lb. melting pots.
One pot for casting pure lead balls, and one pot for casting hardened balls and bullets out of wheel weights.
I use a 1" oak dowel (wrapped with rawhide) to gently "whack" the the sprue cutter and again to "tap" the hinge of my mold handles to knock a stubborn ball from the mold's cavity (whenever needed).
I cast outside (on my deck) since I don't have a ventilation system set up in the house, and sometimes run a 24" shop fan for "cross-ventilation" when casting without a natural "breeze" to move the fumes.
I often find it difficult to stop casting once I "get going",.... maybe Rob has experienced this very same "problem". :) :bl th up :laffing
I buy my pure lead from "foundry over-runs" when their government contracts have been met, and they have extra lead ingots left over.
I agree with Rob 100%,.... when he says "But, even if you only get to the range or afield just a few times a year, casting balls can be as much apart of the experience of traditional muzzleloading as the shooting part. The same can be said for making powder horns, ball boards, ramrods, guns, knives, period utensils and clothing, etc. It's the historic aspect along with the personal satisfaction of DIY."
I should be casting today, since the weatherman is predicting a "high" of 77 degrees,.... but I'm still trying to catch up on some other things I've put off due to winter.
Bigsmoke:
I don't know, I never have really enjoyed casting round ball.
But
Back in the early 1970's, my wife gave me a T/C Renegade for my birthday. About the same time, my next door neighbor bought one as well. So, I went down to the local big gun shop to equip myself. Came away with the T/C kit (20 maxi balls, short starter, powder measure and the T/C bullet lube), a capper, a pound of powder and a tin of caps. Went up into the mountains to a friend's place and we broke that ol' T/C in. It didn't take a real long time to go through those 20 Maxis. So, that week I again made the trek to the gun shop and asked for more bullets. The only thing they had to offer was the T/C Kit. Well, heck, I opined, I'm gonna wind up with a whole bunch of pieces and parts. So, I left.
Over beers that evening, my friend and I decided that the best thing we could do was to equip ourselves with a .530 mold, a casting pot and a ladle. Somewhere along the line, we decided that since round ball was not readily available, maybe we should go into business for ourselves and start casting commercially. Yeah, (snicker, snicker) cast commercially with single cavity molds? Whatever. So, starting with .530, we outfitted ourselves with .440, .490, .451 etc. sized molds and started melting lead. We started going to various local rendezvous and set up a table and did pretty good selling round ball. After a couple of years, Linda and i got out of Dodge and moved to N. Idaho and supposedly left lead casting behind. My plan was to never cast another ball for the rest of my life. As they say, "Man plans - God laughs!!!"
By this time, we had acquired October Country and we were developing it nearly to the level I envisioned. Somewhere along the line, we had started getting inquiries as to whether or not we would carry Minie Balls. Enough that I decided that we should start making them. So, I bought a Lyman furnace, got a ladle and so forth. And once a week, I would stay home and make some Minnies at the house. That worked pretty good.
Then after a while, we started in with the big bore rifles. So, I got some Jeff Tanner moulds in .610, .678, .715, .820 and .980. I kept doing that until we sold OC in 2005. And this time I sold the moulds, and again said I am through with casting. So far, so good. With no moulds and the furnace securely tucked away, I think the odds are pretty good that I can keep my promise. Plus with Hornady and Speer round balls in .530 so available, I cannot think of a single reason to try to find my furnace again. Actually, with the supply of r/b's that I have on hand, no doubt I have a life time supply already.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
John
prairie dog:
I don't get too sophisticated about it.
I fire up the fish cooker.
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Toss some of this in the pot.
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Put on my welding gloves and make a bunch of these.
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