After going back and looking at this thread, this will be directed to dmarsh. If you're getting the snow and rain up there like we are in PA, I don't think you'll be able to cross that creek for some time. And you mentioned you had a renegade with a tuned L&R lock with a full stock. I am partial to Renegades, and I'd love to see a picture of that gun. Never saw one with full stock on it.