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Kees, so true. Maybe not shirt sleeve weather, but maybe a sweat shirt or just a flannel shirt. I didn't used to think it was chilly until it got under 20 or so.I recollect fondly snowmobiling in minus 0 degree weather when we would go to Yellowstone in January. Those were the days. Now that I am somewhat older, and on blood thinner meds, I have lost all tolerance for cold weather. I've been inside all day and my hands are still cold. Ugh.JohnPS: Are you going to really throw another dog on the fire, or did you mean log?