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Author Topic: How do we score postal match targets??  (Read 2690 times)

Offline Smokey

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How do we score postal match targets??
« on: June 21, 2024, 07:10:20 AM »
I may try the June 2024 postal match. How do I score the target?

(I saw Ohio Joe's old thread on how to score but the attachment to the info doesn't work anymore).

An update on scoring would be appreciated. Thanks.


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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2024, 01:38:58 PM »
Hello Smokey. Glad you're interested in trying the postal shoots. I see what you mean about the attachment not working anymore. I was going to wait for Nessmuk to answer your scoring concerns. But he may be in an area where there's no internet service. So forgive me Mark. If your question is regarding whether a shot is worth the next higher point value, as long as it breaks the scoring ring, it will be worth the next higher point value. Some organizations require that half of the ball is in the next higher point . But the TMA only requires the line to be broken. Sometimes it's hard to tell, and that is where the target overlay comes in handy. As far as the rondy targets are concerned, the scoring instructions are normally written on the target.


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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2024, 03:17:29 PM »
Thanks NoPowder.
I'll rephrase the question.
How do I add up my score generally?  How does the scoring work?

Put another way. I've got a target. There are 5 holes in it.
How do I add them up to obtain my score? What's the formula?

 

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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2024, 03:57:28 PM »
OK, here goes, it's pretty simple.
Let's say you have a 10 ring target target with an "X" ring on it.
And let's say that there are 5 clean holes centered in the scoring rings.
There is 1 in the 7 ring and that scores a        7
There are 2 in the 8 ring and that scores       16
There is 1 in the 9 ring and that scores           9
There is 1 in the 10 ring and that scores        10
Total for that target is the sum of each one = 42

So, let's change that up a bit
One of the 8 ring hits has cleanly cut the line between the 8 and 9 ring, so you would have 1 eight and 2 nines, increasing your score by 1 or now it is 43.
Now lets say that 10 ring shot hit in the x ring.  You would still have 43, but now you would count the x so now it would be
43-x.
If another of your shots had been in the x ring also, the score would be 44-2X.   If the 9 shot would have been an X hit, you would have 44-2X, regardless if it was a clean x shot or just cut the line.
Hope that helps,
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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2024, 04:17:36 PM »
Thanks John. I was afraid my explanation wasn't to be what Smokey was looking for. I just thought if the man wanted to shoot June's target, and 9 days left, we better get him some info.


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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2024, 05:06:09 PM »
Thanks to both of you. That does help and NoPowder answered a question that was sure to come up.
All I have to do now is hit the target.

Should I email the result to the score@tradmla address?

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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2024, 05:15:26 PM »
We use to send them to that e-mail, or Marks other e-mail. But now we post a picture of our targets on this thread. Were you able to print off a rondy target too, (or also known as the fun target) ?


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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2024, 05:34:13 PM »
We use to send them to that e-mail, or Marks other e-mail. But now we post a picture of our targets on this thread. Were you able to print off a rondy target too, (or also known as the fun target) ?

I have not printed a rondy target. I'll stick with the bullseye style for now.

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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2024, 06:05:32 PM »
Got ya. Just post a picture of your target on the 2024  postal shoot and 2024 fun shoot thread .


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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2024, 12:37:58 PM »
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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2024, 04:26:22 PM »
How are misses counted, if at all?  Say for example, there four holes on the target. Then some flintknuckle has himself a nasty hangfire and misses the target completely. Do misses count for anything? Can we take another shot?

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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2024, 09:01:37 PM »
Ya gotta love those hangfires. I will say this, if you've never experienced a hangfire while target shooting, you've never done too much target shooting. I won't answer your question ( Mark can answer it), but I'll refer you to my August Sgt. York 2023 target to see what a hangfire did to me. The shot in the black, on the left side was a hanger. Happens to us all, and usually with disgusting results.


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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2024, 10:01:45 AM »
Ya gotta love those hangfires.

Hangfires, dry balling and flint cuts. All on the when-not-if list.

As for scoring, I don't see anything in the rules about how misses are counted.

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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2024, 10:39:52 AM »
Misses are not counted.  That is a zero shot.  And you should not take another shot.

I have found the best way to console oneself is to convert the firearm to percussion and proceed down the rocky trail of life without the burden of hangfires and misfires.

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Re: How do we score postal match targets??
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2024, 10:42:05 AM »
There's an old saying that goes like this. There are two kinds of people who shoot muzzleloaders. There are those who have loaded their muzzleloader without powder, and those that will. I hate to let you hanging Smokey, so here's what  I'll say about your question. I'm pretty sure your shot that missed the paper, scored a 0. And I've never been offered any do overs . So in my honest opinion, I think you'll be adding the point value of your 4 hits as your score.


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