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Offline Uncle Russ

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« Reply #135 on: June 12, 2009, 04:32:49 PM »
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A great day and whats more there is still a lot of shooting left to do to get this 200 thing nailed down!

Rob, nothing absolute on what I am saying, but from what I have seen over the years, including my own feeble attempts at 125 & 150yd with one of my smoothies, I would say that the last "group" of roughly 5~6 inches at 200M, while not being a record that I'm aware of, would certainly rate right up there with very best.

It appears, to this ol'boy, that you may very well already have the "200 thing nailed down"

Very good! :clap

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« Reply #136 on: June 12, 2009, 06:14:05 PM »
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"The same Indian made Bakers...," well they may be all made in India, but not necessarily from the same maker or parts manufacturer.  I was told that the Sharpe's Rifles Bakers came from the Discriminating General, and I don't think that Middlesex Village gets theirs from the same maker as DG.  I have been told that Loyalist Arms gets their stuff from a different parts maker than DG.

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The one company that definitely claimed to use the same makers was Military Heritage (http://www.militaryheritage.com/baker.htm); others I went by what I heard.
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« Reply #137 on: June 12, 2009, 10:49:01 PM »
I wasn't bustin' your chops  :)
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« Reply #138 on: June 12, 2009, 11:01:07 PM »
Could you guys who own and shoot Bakers write an article describing your experience with your Bakers?  I'd like to put them in the Journal.  email to tmajournaleditor @yahoo.com include any photos you may have.
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« Reply #139 on: June 14, 2009, 12:38:29 AM »
The following is from the Middlesex Village Trading Companie website regarding their Baker.

"I don't know much about these other than that they were made by the company that supplied them for the "Sharpe's Rifles" series on PBS"
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« Reply #140 on: June 15, 2009, 06:13:28 PM »
I took the Baker to it's first shooting match on Sunday. I didn't win anything but I was very pleased with the way she shot since I put the new trigger in and completely polished the lock. There is a rifled musket match coming up in July and I will be using her.
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« Reply #141 on: June 15, 2009, 08:21:21 PM »
Thanks Russ!  By the time I moved back to 200 the flint was buggered and wouldn't knap properly..  All this combined for a bit of distraction...  Next time I'll not do as much "warm up at 100" and spend more time at 200....  Can't wait....  Original accuracy from original style rifling.......

Say Chuck, yours has 1-72 rifling?  Any pictures of your shoot?  Pics of your rifle?  How was the load work up or have you already done that... Accuracy?

Thanks,
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« Reply #142 on: June 15, 2009, 11:04:36 PM »
I contacted MVTC about their Bakers and they said they don't have any in stock but they would order one for a 50% deposit.
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« Reply #143 on: June 16, 2009, 09:12:07 AM »
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DOes anyone know what Bakers they used in filming the Sharpes Rifles series.  I mean where did they get them?

No idea but Sgt Pat's volley gun was going round the trade shows over here with an eye-watering price tag.

Fun to pick up but looked a bit wrong in the barrel department  :toast
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« Reply #144 on: June 16, 2009, 10:05:17 AM »
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DOes anyone know what Bakers they used in filming the Sharpes Rifles series.  I mean where did they get them?

No idea but Sgt Pat's volley gun was going round the trade shows over here with an eye-watering price tag.

Fun to pick up but looked a bit wrong in the barrel department  :toast

http://www.southessex.co.uk/weapons/nock.htm
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« Reply #145 on: June 16, 2009, 12:34:06 PM »
My goodness!
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« Reply #146 on: June 16, 2009, 03:12:12 PM »
How so Robin?
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« Reply #147 on: June 16, 2009, 11:17:00 PM »
I contacted MVTC and Pete answered my email.  Here is his response about the Bakers you all might be interested in.

"The Bakers don’t have a set trigger, but they do have a yager-style trigger where it lays backwards at about a 45 degree angle. They have a standard two-notch tumbler with no fly, so if you wanted to slick one up, it would be an easy job.

 

As they come, they have smoothbore barrels, but Colerain makes a .62 cal rifled barrel for the Bakers that can be fitted. We get them (the rifled barrels) from Track of the Wolf and the gun can be ordered with the upgraded barrel. We fabricate a breechplug out of 4130 round stock, reuse the original sights and bayonet bar, then brown the new barrel and breech assembly. The gun with Colerain barrel sells for $695 plus shipping, but it is still the cheapest way to get an actual rifled Baker as opposed to the smoothbore.

Thanks,
Pete"

I'm going this route I think.  The Colerain barrels have a 1 and 66 twist and are 30 inches long.  The barreel won't be a Rayl, but Colerains are good barrels.
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« Reply #148 on: June 17, 2009, 10:01:42 AM »
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How so Robin?

Hi SM

Presume you mean how so "looked a bit wrong in the barrel department"?

You could see down between them to brazed in plates holding it all together. I have a notion that volley gun barrels should be tightly spaced and look like one lump.

OTOH I have never laid mitts on an original so I could be completely wrong :toast

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« Reply #149 on: June 17, 2009, 01:18:18 PM »
Interesting. :roll eyes  I'd have to agree with you on your assessment.  I'd expect the barrels to be assembled like those of a double barrel shotgun if I understand your description.  This one was assembled as a prop for a TV show so one should not expect that it was made the same way the originals were. :toast  :shake
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