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Title: Moc Questions
Post by: Spotted Bull on December 14, 2010, 09:32:18 PM

OK, I need some help for a buddy of mine.  He is working at a longhunter persona and needs help with what style mocs were worn and if there is any documentation for the type?

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Post by: KHickam on December 14, 2010, 09:59:29 PM

eastern center seams

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Post by: Breakfast Boy on December 14, 2010, 11:00:02 PM

I wasn't sure, but I was going to say the Eastern center seam mocs too.  Jas Townsend sells a kit that comes with everything you need including the pre-cut leather, and you just sew them up yourself...

http://jas-townsend.com/product_info.php?cPath=5&products_id=246

Of course, you can either make them from scratch yourself or buy 'em already made.  I'm sure there are others, but here is some already made...

http://www.carldyers.com/

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Post by: Spotted Bull on December 16, 2010, 04:13:06 PM

Well thats what I told Ron and of course he says..

"Is there any documentation?"

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Post by: Sir Michael on December 16, 2010, 09:35:20 PM

This site may help

http://www.nativetech.org/clothing/moccasin/mocmap.html (http://www.nativetech.org/clothing/moccasin/mocmap.html)

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Post by: Loyalist Dave on December 17, 2010, 07:36:04 AM

There is tons of documentation on the center seam moc for eastern woodlands cultures.  

A couple of tips..., Carl Dyer makes a good leather shoe..., most places/event out East they aren't considered mocs so are considered modern footware (don't flame me folks I don't write the rules)...., but if I had a guy who had a choice between Dyers and modern orthopedics (and I do have such a guy) then the Dyers are a better choice.  

Otherwise the Townsend kit is a good starting place...

Mocs stretch went wet, and they need to be snug.  So when they get damp, (or you can get them wet and wear them) they will stretch, and you should adjust them at the heel to make them fit again.  Once this has been done one time, then grease them for water resistance if you wish.

NOW when they wear out..., if they are a good fitting pair, don't throw them out..., cut out the stitching and use them as a pattern for the next pairs.  Most folks that wear mocs on a regular basis have two to three pairs with them at a weekend event or trek.  Put on the next pair when you get a hole, and repair the damaged pair, or replace when wet at night to keep feet warmer, etc.

LD

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Post by: LRB on December 18, 2010, 05:48:54 PM

The Townsend kit is not really correct. The native tech site shows the proper mocassin pattern leaving no stitch under the toes.

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Post by: Buffler Razz on December 19, 2010, 08:18:07 AM

Hey RB! I made a few pair for myself from the pattern on the Native tech site and wore them extensively. Same for a few of my friends back east. It is a well laid out pattern.
Razz

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Post by: Spotted Bull on December 19, 2010, 09:42:45 AM

Thanks all. Ron is going to do center seam and probably use that pattern.

Title: Native Tech Pattern
Post by: cumberland gap 65 on December 26, 2010, 01:01:25 PM

I have used the native tech pattern and had great success with it. The more mocs you make the better you will get at it.
Good luck
CG65