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Title: Savannah....a let down
Post by: Adam Wetherington on May 25, 2011, 04:06:06 PM
My wife and I are visiting Savannah and I must confess that I am pretty dissappointed. For a city that has sooo much history going back to the founding of the colony of Georgia, there is very little in the way of actually reading or experiencing much of it. Everything here is Civil War, Girl Scouts, Paula Deen, or ghost stories.....what a let down!

Although pre-revolution, we are holding out hope for Wormsloe tommorrow.....I really enjoyed it 10 years ago, hopefully it hasn't changed for the worse.

BTW, if you are interested in the founding of Georgia or the conflict between the English and Spanish in the southeast, definitely check out Frederica NM on St. Simon's island!!! It was a great stop and we both really enjoyed the walking tour they have there. It really brought the 1730's-1750's to "life" through archeology. Ft. KIng George is also highly recommended....they both get the blackpowderscout seal of approval-  :salute  :Doh!

Adam
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: flyfisher76544 on May 25, 2011, 05:01:47 PM
Quote from: "blackpowderscout"
Although pre-revolution, we are holding out hope for Wormsloe tommorrow.....I really enjoyed it 10 years ago, hopefully it hasn't changed for the worse.
Adam

They have a small re-enactment this weekend called the War of Jenkins Ear at Wormsloe. Early colonials who had to fight the Spanish. Starts this Saturday and goes on til Monday. The link has the info and you can look at the other parks in the area. I have to agree with you, it seems the folks here focus more on the Civil War than anything else.
Let me know if you are going this weekend, wife, son and myself are planning on being there for our first event.

http://www.gastateparks.org/Wormsloe (http://www.gastateparks.org/Wormsloe)
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: Adam Wetherington on May 25, 2011, 05:12:51 PM
Thanks FlyFisher! Unfortunately, we are headed back home Friday...we figured we'd get a good week in before the holiday rush.

It's been a long time but I remember the staff at Wormsloe to be very dedicated, so I'd imagine this event should be a good one. Do you know if they still do anything down at Ft. King George? I thought I remember reading about a "Debatable Lands" event awhile back.

I might stop back in there on the way home and ask what's going on this year.

BTW, we thoroughly enjoyed dining at The Olde Pink House, James Habersham Jr's c.1789 home!!! Awesome example a fine 18th century home.

Adam
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: mario on May 25, 2011, 05:30:48 PM
You will find the same thing throughout much of the South.

Nothing happened before 1860.

 Although all the stuff that "didn't happen" between 1771 and 1782 takes 4 volumes to list... (Nothing But Blood and Slaughter by Patrick O'Kelley)

Mario
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: flyfisher76544 on May 25, 2011, 08:28:14 PM
The Debatable Land event is set for November 12th this year, they also have a small demo on the 2nd of July as well.

http://www.gastateparks.org/FortKingGeorge (http://www.gastateparks.org/FortKingGeorge)
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: Loyalist Dave on May 26, 2011, 09:30:34 PM
I've been to Wormsloe for that very event..., I found it rather cool, but that was several years ago.  I don't know if it has changed.  

LD
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: Sir Michael on May 26, 2011, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: "blackpowderscout"
My wife and I are visiting Savannah and I must confess that I am pretty dissappointed. For a city that has sooo much history going back to the founding of the colony of Georgia, there is very little in the way of actually reading or experiencing much of it. Everything here is Civil War, Girl Scouts, Paula Deen, or ghost stories.....what a let down!

What do you expect from the place in the South were the first question they ask is "What do you want to drink?"  That's how they survived Sherman.

Much of the East Coast is layered in tradition.  FIW/AIW/CW you just have to know which side of the road to look on. :Doh!
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: Adam Wetherington on May 27, 2011, 08:54:34 AM
Well, Wormsloe was definitely worth the drive out of town. They were busy getting ready for this weekend's event. The weather was great! Warm, nice breeze, and no no'seeums. The film they have about Noble Jones and the early settlement of Georgia is entertaining. Without a doubt, if you are into the Pre-FI War settlement of the the southeast then Frederica, Ft. King George, and Wormsloe and St. Augustine (for the bad guy's side of things :rt th

Adam
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: flyfisher76544 on June 01, 2011, 07:30:54 AM
Well the event at Wormsloe went well, sorry you had to miss it. Here are a few picts from this weekend. The folks there made me and the family feel extremely welcome.

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk249/flyfisher76544/DSCF1370.jpg)
Eric doing brain tanning demonstrations

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk249/flyfisher76544/DSCF1375.jpg)
Musket demostration

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk249/flyfisher76544/DSCF1412.jpg)
They also have the children involved in a kids militia

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk249/flyfisher76544/DSCF1368-1.jpg)
Me helping the wife set up for her candle demo
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: sse on June 01, 2011, 10:32:39 AM
Great photos...
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: Adam Wetherington on June 01, 2011, 12:09:18 PM
Looks great. I bet it was fun. How was the public turnout?

Adam
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: flyfisher76544 on June 01, 2011, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: "blackpowderscout"
Looks great. I bet it was fun. How was the public turnout?

Adam

There were a lot of folks there on Saturday and Sunday. It was hard to grab a bite to eat. Monday was slow, but there were still folks coming in.
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: Sir Michael on June 01, 2011, 02:11:30 PM
Got a photo of you that you'd like in the 2012 Calendar?
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: flyfisher76544 on June 02, 2011, 06:35:27 AM
Quote from: "Sir Michael"
Got a photo of you that you'd like in the 2012 Calendar?

I'll see if I can get some together Sir Michael. At the event, I was the one taking most of the picts.
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: sharps54 on July 02, 2011, 07:22:57 AM
Great stuff! I'll need to schedule a trip down for the Jenkin's Ear event next year.

If I was going to do a "War of Jenkin's Ear tour" what would you guys say are the must see sights and about how long (one day, half a day) would each take? I'd probably go drive down and try to see everything prior to the event and drive back after the event.

I'm thinking take a day to drive to Savannah, the next day do Wormsloe and King George, the following day do Frederica and Fort Mose returning to Savannah that night with the event starting the following day. Is that enough time?

Thanks in advance!
Jason
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: Adam Wetherington on July 02, 2011, 07:57:58 AM
That sounds about right. Ft. Mose isn't much of anything last time I was there. You'd get more opportunity to explore the Spanish side of the story if you went a few more miles south into town to the Castillo de San Marcos. It is, however, a drive of several hours from St. Simon's Island to St. Augustine.
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: sharps54 on July 02, 2011, 08:16:35 AM
Thanks! I didn't know about Castillo de San Marcos and will add it to the list! Google maps say 2 hours 20 minutes from Fort Frederica to Fort Mose but I think it's worth it to see the Spanish side.  Adding Castillo de San Marcos will make the trip much more worthwhile. I may allow a full day for the Florida destinations including driving time.

I just wish I had been interested in this when I was in the army. I was in Panama and Cuba both of which have sites related to the War of Jenkin's Ear. I doubt there was much to see in Cuba but I probably could have gotten to Portobelo in Panama. Actually we did go to Colon but it wasn't to see historical sites!

Jason

Edited to add: can you comfortably do all three Georgia locations in one day?
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: Adam Wetherington on July 02, 2011, 08:35:18 AM
Frederica and Ft. King George...yes. My wife and I spent several hours at Frederica, usually it's about the same at Ft. King George. It would be a squeeze to get Wormsloe in for us in the same day.
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: sharps54 on July 02, 2011, 08:45:45 AM
Good to know. I'll plan two days for the Georgia sites. I know it's a different time period but since I'm driving by do you think it's worth stopping at Fort Caroline in Jacksonville?

Right now it is looking like this
Tuesday drive to Savannah.
Wednesday and Thursday do Wormsloe, Ft. King George and Frederica
Friday drive to Ft. Mose, Castillo de San Marco and maybe Fort Caroline returning to Savannah that night.
Saturday go to the reenactment
Sunday drive home

Does that sound realistic?

Jason
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: Adam Wetherington on July 02, 2011, 01:03:48 PM
Yes, that sounds very doable.

Ft. Caroline isn't a bad place. It's pretty small and sort of a pain to get to due to traffic in Jacksonville. There's not much to the site itself though. I'm glad I went but I probably won't feel the need to go back anytime soon. Frederica and Ft. King George and even the Castillo (with all it's tourists) offer way more to the "historical explorer" in my opinion.
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: sharps54 on July 02, 2011, 01:35:37 PM
Thanks for all the help blackpowderscout! Look's like 2012 will be my War of Jenkin's Ear vacation! Now to talk She Who Must Be Obeyed into it!  :shock:
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: Adam Wetherington on July 02, 2011, 02:06:12 PM
Just sell her with tales of the beauty of St. Simon's Island, the wonderful food of Savannah, and the sunshine and beaches of NE Florida!!!! Leave out the "no see'ums" and 200% humidity though!
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: flyfisher76544 on July 02, 2011, 07:24:55 PM
Quote from: "sharps54"
Thanks for all the help blackpowderscout! Look's like 2012 will be my War of Jenkin's Ear vacation! Now to talk She Who Must Be Obeyed into it!  :shock:

If you really want to plan around an event at Wormsloe, they have one in Sept called "Tools and Skills that built a Colony" It is suppossed to be a bigger event than The War of Jenkins Ear(which was just a cannon and musket display and a few others) If I wind up going to the tools and skills, I'll give you an update if you want. I would rather have you come down for a big event versus a smaller one.

http://www.gastateparks.org/Wormsloe (http://www.gastateparks.org/Wormsloe)
Title: Re: Savannah....a let down
Post by: sharps54 on July 03, 2011, 06:07:22 AM
flyfisher76544,

Thanks, I look forward to hearing how it goes if you make it.

Jason