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Title: Goliad Executions
Post by: Craig Tx on March 27, 2013, 09:10:32 AM
From the Texas State Historical Association

Infamy at Goliad

On this day in 1836, which happened to be Palm Sunday, at least 342 Texans were executed by firing squad at Goliad. The Texans considered these men prisoners of war, whereas General Santa Anna thought them "perfidious foreigners." The Mexican dictator had decreed that all Texans in arms against the Mexican government were to be treated as traitors, not soldiers. The men were led out of town and shot at point- blank range. Those not killed by the first volley were hunted down and killed by gunfire, bayonet, or lance. The bodies were left unburied. The incident, which became known among Anglo-Texans as the Goliad Massacre, joined the Alamo as a rallying cry for Texas independence.


Craig
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: greyhunter on March 28, 2013, 07:08:02 PM
In light of this info, I wonder why he was not executed after his defeat. I know it had to do with his overall surrender, but I still think the dog shulda hung!.
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: rollingb on March 28, 2013, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: "greyhunter"
In light of this info, I wonder why he was not executed after his defeat. I know it had to do with his overall surrender, but I still think the dog shulda hung!.
+1  :th up
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: Craig Tx on March 29, 2013, 08:05:53 AM
That was the overwhelming sentiment at the time of his capture.  However to quote Sam Houston from the movie (paraphrasing) You would have the man, I want Texas!.

With Santa Anna alive Texas had a bargaining chip to get the Mexican Army of Operations out of Texas.  By having, in one person, the Commanding General and the President of the Republic prisoner.  They made as a condition of his eventual release the Mexican Army ordered out of Texas.  They also got the renunciation of claims by Mexico to Texas, etc.  Most of which was refutiated by the Mexican legislature as being agreed to under duress.

IIRC, General Filisola was court martialed for following the evacuation order that was issued while Santa na was in captivity.


Craig
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: sse on April 04, 2013, 02:58:42 PM
As always, most fascinating...
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: Craig Tx on April 04, 2013, 03:08:31 PM
Glad you're enjoyin' it!  I could talk about this all day (Texas history, not the Goliad executions in particular...) and not get tired...

Craig
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: sse on April 04, 2013, 03:13:39 PM
Quote
I could talk about this all day
I believe you could...

In fact, I'm thinking about transitioning my personna to a mountain man who probably spent more time in those parts, than he wanted to...!
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: rollingb on April 04, 2013, 03:19:05 PM
Quote from: "Craig Tx"
Glad you're enjoyin' it!  I could talk about this all day (Texas history, not the Goliad executions in particular...) and not get tired...

Craig
Please,... keep talking about "Texas history", many of us find it very interesting, tho comments might be few.  :rt th
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: Two Steps on April 04, 2013, 03:29:43 PM
Yep...same what Rondo said.  Ya know I enjoy Texas history.  You might think about getting up a short blurb or some little known facts for the News Letter  :)   Bet it would be a hit.
Al
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: rollingb on April 04, 2013, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: "Two Steps"
Yep...same what Rondo said.  Ya know I enjoy Texas history.  You might think about getting up a short blurb or some little known facts for the News Letter  :rt th  :rt th
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: Craig Tx on April 04, 2013, 03:46:17 PM
I'll put it in my job jar Al...

Whoever's in charge of the newsletter should poke me to remind me if I don't get it in, in a reasonable amount of time...

Craig
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: Uncle Russ on April 06, 2013, 12:44:54 PM
"Job Jar"  :shock:
I've heard bad things about them things, got one meself that I'm afraid to open.

Uncle Russ...
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: Craig Tx on April 07, 2013, 09:57:26 PM
Yeah, mine's pretty scary as well!   :lol


Craig
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: Bigsmoke on April 07, 2013, 10:25:22 PM
Poke
Did you feel that?
[size=200]POKE[/size]
Did ya feel it now?
Shoot me something to bigsmoke72@charter.net
Thanks,
John
PS will be looking forward to probably having the next newsletter out in July.
So will need it middle of June at the latest.
John
Title: Re: Goliad Executions
Post by: Craig Tx on April 07, 2013, 10:37:08 PM
<snork>

Your idea of "reasonable amount of time" is amazin' John...   :P

I'll see what I can come up with.

Craig