Post by: Muley on February 19, 2014, 03:24:29 PM
What do you guys like?
Post by: Two Steps on February 19, 2014, 03:58:26 PM
There is a thread going on right now about different brand caps.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=19383 (http://traditionalmuzzleloadingassociation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=19383)
Al
Post by: Muley on February 19, 2014, 04:12:12 PM
Thanks.
Post by: prairie dog on February 19, 2014, 05:23:16 PM
It seems any of the newer caps are more reliable than some of the imported stuff I got back in the 1980's. I hardly ever find a cap that's lost it's prime these days.
Post by: rollingb on February 19, 2014, 05:43:41 PM
Quote from: "prairie dog"
I am using the CCI magnums currently. I've used the regular CCI, RWS, Remington, and Winchester. I don't see much if any difference except the Remington caps are a little larger than the CCI. They will fit a nipple that's a little larger or starting to mushroom out.Here is a cap size chart that some of you might find handy.
It seems any of the newer caps are more reliable than some of the imported stuff I got back in the 1980's. I hardly ever find a cap that's lost it's prime these days.
THR (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=194480&d=1391527575)
Post by: Ron T. on July 09, 2014, 03:15:21 PM
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Post by: Bigsmoke on July 09, 2014, 04:51:43 PM
Started out with Remingtons and really had good success with them, but they are hard to find here.
Somewhere along the line I started shooting with RWS caps and have been totally satisfied with them. Hardly ever a misfire, and when there is, it's usually my fault.
In my big rifles I rely upon musket cap ignition and have found that the CCI musket caps work OK there.
Years ago, a friend of mine did a series of tests on different brands of percussion caps and his findings confirmed that the RWS caps were the best.
If you are shooting Pyrodex, for sure use the hottest caps you can get.
Post by: Riley/MN on July 09, 2014, 04:58:35 PM
Then there was the CVA caps that came in the light blue plastic "tins". If ya hit em hard enough, they go off...after 4-5 hits.
Post by: Muley on July 09, 2014, 05:23:51 PM
Post by: Ron T. on July 09, 2014, 05:52:09 PM
Quote from: "bigsmoke"
Have had numerous misfires using regular CCI caps. Not worth the bother to try them again. The magnums are better.
Years ago, a friend of mine did a series of tests on different brands of percussion caps and his findings confirmed that the RWS caps were the best.
If you are shooting Pyrodex, for sure use the hottest caps you can get.
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Ahhhhhhhhhhh... I see (now) why you may have had a "problem" with standard CCI percussion caps... you're using Pyrodex (man-made) black powder, a black powder substitute rather than REAL black powder. :idea :toast
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Post by: Bigsmoke on July 09, 2014, 07:01:52 PM
Looks like I was misunderstood again. :Doh!
No, I was not shooting Pyrodex or any of the other synthetic powders. Except for some tests I have run over the years, I never have, and I never will shoot that stuff.
Post by: Detached on July 09, 2014, 07:31:04 PM
Post by: Geezer in NH on July 09, 2014, 07:49:34 PM
LOL all in good fun
Post by: Bigsmoke on July 09, 2014, 07:56:50 PM
So, I will just leave that alone, darn it. It could have been a lot of fun.
By the way, you just don't know how many times I have tried to embrace the rock. Even went so far as to sell off all my percussion guns so I would have to get with that program. Wound up buying another cap gun. Never could develop a real fancy for them rock locks. Always kept coming back to cap guns. At this stage of my life, I think I will just stay where I am at.
Post by: Ron T. on July 09, 2014, 09:12:22 PM
I also have a Pennsylvania "rock-lock" Long Rifle, but don't shoot it nearly as much as the cap-locks. However, the ol' "flinter" is very accurate and fun to shoot, but not so "fun" or easy-to-clean as the cap-lock Hawken rifles are with their wedge-held-in removable barrels.
The cap-lock rifles have kinda "spoiled" me as far as the ease-of-cleaning goes.
Keep yer powder dry...
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Post by: Bigsmoke on July 09, 2014, 10:56:49 PM
Years ago (30+), Mrs. Smoke bought me a beautiful Tennessee rifle, .45 cal. flinter. Prettiest piece of maple I have ever seen. I really don't care to shoot it cause of its ignition, but one would have to beat me excessively with a big stick to ever get it from me.
Happy Days
John
Post by: Ron T. on July 10, 2014, 02:10:21 AM
My "boys" (they're both over 50 years old, so they're not really "boys" anymore) shoot those saboted 295 grain, .50 caliber jacketed, hollow-point bullets at deer using 3 of those powder "disks" (50 grains EACH) and while both of the boys are strong, stout young fellas, that unnecessarily heavy load REALLY sits 'em straight-up when shooting their in-line rifles off of the bench-rest while checking the zero of their scope-equipped in-line rifles.
My "puny" 70 grains of Swiss FFFg, my deer-hunting load outta my older, cap-lock CVA Hawken-Hunter Carbine (24-inch barrel, 6½ lbs.), puts a .490-inch Hornady swagged, patched rifle ball through BOTH sides of a deer at 80 yards or less (usually "less"... "80 yards" is my self-imposed maximum hunting range with my M.L.) and a "hit" in the deer's "kill zone" normally goes through both sides and generally offers a easy "blood trail" to follow if the deer goes very far (which it usually doesn't) in dense cover.
I chronographed the boy's hunting loads while at my club's shooting range a few years ago... and ya don't "need" an almost 300 grain saboted, jacketed hollow-pointed bullet at 2,015 fps to bring down even the biggest deer that ever roamed a deer-woods. There just isn't any big grizzly bears or elephants in Ohio's deer woods the last time I checked. Their loads are massive examples of "over-kill" and painful recoil.
Butttttttttttttttttttttt... I say "nuthin' " even though I have to sometimes bite-my-tongue until it bleeds to keep my big mouth "shut"!
There ARE times when "respect" for someone's opinion is tough to come by... but we keep trying, eh?
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Post by: Two Steps on July 10, 2014, 09:25:37 AM
Quote
but one would have to beat me excessively with a big stick to ever get it from me.Hmm...45 flinter...beautiful wood...lotta trees around here. Just how big a stick are we talking here John?! :lol:
Al
Post by: Bigsmoke on July 10, 2014, 10:29:48 AM
Refer to the section about prying cold, dead fingers and all that.
Serious now, that is one rifle that I will not ever trade off. It is a keeper to me. IMHO, one of the very best to come out of the TVM's shop.
J
Post by: Two Steps on July 10, 2014, 11:13:56 AM
Post by: Riley/MN on July 10, 2014, 04:44:23 PM
Quote from: "bigsmoke"
You know, Ron, that's what makes this country so good. We are all entitled to our opinion, whatever it is. And they are all valid. Whatever works for you is what you should use. Whatever works for me is what I should use.
Years ago (30+), Mrs. Smoke bought me a beautiful Tennessee rifle, .45 cal. flinter. Prettiest piece of maple I have ever seen. I really don't care to shoot it cause of its ignition, but one would have to beat me excessively with a big stick to ever get it from me.
Happy Days
John
I got a big stick - I walk softly too....
Post by: Uncle Russ on July 12, 2014, 02:00:43 PM
Quote from: "Riley/MN"
I got a big stick - I walk softly too....
And I got a great big pot of home-made spaghetti with lots of pressed garlic, mushrooms, Roma 'maters, Italian Peppers, and a lovely loaf of lightly toasted French Bread, with Parmesan, real butter, and light garlic.
Bring the gun on your next trip........... :shock:
Uncle Russ...
Post by: Hanshi on July 12, 2014, 03:55:43 PM
Opinions!? If anyone needs to have an opinion on any subject I'll give it to them! :hairy
Post by: Ron T. on July 12, 2014, 06:14:21 PM
Quote from: "Two Steps"
Muley, when I shoot my cap guns I use CCIs. Pretty much always have as they were what I got first. Never tried any of the mags. Never had a problem with the CCI #11s.
There is a thread going on right now about different brand caps.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=19383 (http://traditionalmuzzleloadingassociation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=19383)
Al
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I did exactly as "Two-Steps" did... regular CCIs were the first percussion caps I bought (a box of 1,000) and they've always worked just fine for me. I've thought about going to CCI Magnum "caps", but why change when the regular CCI "caps" have never failed to fire? Then, too... merely exchanging regular CCI "caps" for their Magnum caps might change the accuracy of the loads I've worked up for my two Hawken Rifles.
I've always adhere'd to that old saying... "If-n it ain't broke, DON'T fix it!"
Strength & Honor...
Ron T.
Post by: forest on July 13, 2014, 09:31:11 PM
Post by: smokepolepaul on August 16, 2014, 12:04:46 PM
Post by: snake eyes on August 16, 2014, 08:15:04 PM
Quote from: "Ron T."
Yes, John... that's true as long as we always remember to "respect" the other man's opinion whether or not we agree with it... n'est pas, mon ami? :shake [/color]
Post by: petew on August 17, 2014, 12:14:18 PM
Post by: Dakotas Dad on August 19, 2014, 08:55:24 AM