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Title: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
Post by: Craig Tx on August 12, 2021, 09:37:45 AM
On this day in 1840, Gen. Felix Huston, Col. Edward Burleson, and others, including Ben McCulloch, fought a running battle with a large party of Comanche Indians.

The battle of Plum Creek occurred as a result of the Council House Fight, in which a number of Comanche leaders were killed. Chief Buffalo Hump led a retaliatory attack down the Guadalupe valley east and south of Gonzales. The band numbered perhaps as many as 1,000, including the families of the warriors, who followed to make camps and seize plunder. The Comanches swept down the valley, plundering, stealing horses, and killing settlers, and sacked the town of Linnville. The Texans' volunteer army caught up with the Indians on Plum Creek, near present-day Lockhart, on August 11 and soundly defeated them the next day.
Title: Re: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
Post by: Oldetexian on August 13, 2021, 12:13:55 PM
 :hairy

As always, good stuff...really appreciate your posts!
Title: Re: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
Post by: BEAVERMAN on August 13, 2021, 01:21:26 PM
 :hairy Thanks Craig!
Title: Re: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
Post by: Uncle Russ on August 13, 2021, 05:20:12 PM
Thanks a bunch, Craig    :bl th up

My reading tells me that of all the fighting tribes in the Southwest, including the Apache tribes, which were known for their cruelty, along with the Comancheros, (which was little more than a mixed-bag of misfits and outcasts, from other Indian Nations with a sprinkling of white outlaws.) The Comanche Tribes were the meanest, most cruel, and often the most intelligent "tactically" of all the Tribes our early settlers had to deal with.

And, perhaps as a point of general interest;
Although growing up on the border town of El Paso, TX, it has been the lowly Yaqui tribe that has gained my admiration and respect, more so than any other over the years, while reading their history and trying to put things into perspective, as Muzzleloaders like us sometimes do.
As a youngster, back in the 1940's, I had a few young friends that were of Yaqui descent.
Thinking back, I have to think that maybe myself, and my family, was the ONLY friends these poor boys had back then.
If you're not aware of these people, here is a link from Wikipedia:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaqui (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaqui)

Russ...

Title: Re: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
Post by: Winter Hawk on August 18, 2021, 12:34:42 PM
Thank you for the link, Russ.  I knew of the Yaqui but nothing in depth.

~Kees~
Title: Re: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
Post by: SharpStick on August 27, 2021, 06:37:44 PM
Russ,
You're mention of the Yaquis reminded me of my experience with them.  In my high school days in south east Arizona there were a couple boys of Yaqui descent. We'd always heard that the Yaquis were great distance runners.  Later, in the 70's, I was driving school bus while attending Arizona State University.  One of my routes was from Guadalupe AZ to the local Marcos de Niza High School.  As the Wikipedia article mentions, the town of Guadalupe was mostly Yaquis.  We only bussed them a couple miles, but were always glad to get them delivered.  Nothing bad, just a bunch of happy, noisy high schoolers who didn't always want to follow the rules.

Thanks a bunch, Craig    :bl th up

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And, perhaps as a point of general interest;
Although growing up on the border town of El Paso, TX, it has been the lowly Yaqui tribe that has gained my admiration and respect, more so than any other over the years, while reading their history and trying to put things into perspective, as Muzzleloaders like us sometimes do.
As a youngster, back in the 1940's, I had a few young friends that were of Yaqui descent.
Thinking back, I have to think that maybe myself, and my family, was the ONLY friends these poor boys had back then.
If you're not aware of these people, here is a link from Wikipedia:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaqui (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaqui)

Russ...
Title: Re: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
Post by: Uncle Russ on August 27, 2021, 10:19:31 PM
 :yessir:

They are that, and more!
Still yet,  they rate high on the list of loyal friends.
(Once they have learned they an "trust" you.)

Russ...