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Title: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Nessmuk on September 01, 2025, 07:56:36 PM: SEPTEMBER POSTAL SHOOT AND AUGUST RESULTS

If you haven't seen the movie "Sgt. York" well then shame on you, Muzzleloader shooter! It has one of the best Muzzleloader shooting scenes on film!! This month we'll be shooting the Sgt. York target and as usual, we'll be shooting the standard target.

Shooters post your targets on this Thread and Good Luck!
Reminder on scoring Sgt. York
In the white "V" 10 pts.
In the Black "M" 5 pts

http://tradmla.org/postal21/tma821.pdf

August Result

Name Reg Target Fun Shoot
Nessmuk 50 3x 30
No Powder 49 1x 50 (antennas count)
KDubs 48 2x 10
Salty 48 2x
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Salty on September 01, 2025, 08:16:40 PM: NoPowder,
Congrats on a perfect fun shoot target. You saved the bees.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Salty on September 01, 2025, 08:18:32 PM: Nessmuk, thank you for keeping this going. I?m enjoying it.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 01, 2025, 10:02:08 PM: Thanks Nessmuk and Salty. Can't wait to get to the range to shoot my postals every month. Only because of Nessmuk.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
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Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Nessmuk on September 04, 2025, 12:19:44 PM: Great Shooting, Tom. It'll be challenge to beat or at least tie you!! :applaud :applaud :applaud
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 04, 2025, 01:55:45 PM: Thanks Mark. I shot the bullseye first, and I knew a vertical group like that on the Sgt. York target wasn't going to work too well. Was going to wait till another day and shoot it with another rifle. But the smaller aiming point made me think like Mel Gibson. Aim small, miss small.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: KDubs on September 04, 2025, 06:11:28 PM: Well heck, pressure is on I guess
Nice targets.
Still too hot to bow hunting might have to hit the sandpit
This weekend.
Kevin
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Bigsmoke on September 04, 2025, 06:30:16 PM: As a not yet shooter, I really shouldn't argue with the head honcho
BUT
As I always heard, the black part of the Sgt York target doesn't count.
Actually, if you hit the black part, it is minus 10.
And the white part is laid out like a 10 ring target with points decreasing as it goes out.
(https://i.ibb.co/DPnwh8HN/JOHN-Tiebreaker-CDA-RDV-2021.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0p3YTFRk)
But, what the hell do I know? I've only been shooting at that target for 50+ years.
I am not shooting, so don't pay any attention to me.
Just saying...
John
And on to another bit of possible good news, I heard on Sunday that our local range was going to re-open in November. Hopefully then I will go from a kibitzer to a competitor.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: KDubs on September 04, 2025, 09:02:26 PM: John that's how I've always seen it too. The idea being to try and get that ball in the bottom of the V. w/o hitting the black.
It's still fun as is though.
Kevin
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Bigsmoke on September 04, 2025, 10:57:07 PM: Quote from: KDubs on September 04, 2025, 09:02:26 PM
John that's how I've always seen it too. The idea being to try and get that ball in the bottom of the V. w/o hitting the black.
It's still fun as is though.
Kevin
Of course, guess who introduced that target to the CdA club?
I have cursed myself ever since that day.
I remember it clearly. I was sitting in a bar with John Crumb after a club meeting discussing targets. This was probably in October of 1977. I drew a rough sketch of the silly thing on a napkin and John liked it and it has been with the club ever since then. FWIW, we used to have our meetings at the WWP hall in downtown CdA. Not many people still remember that.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 04, 2025, 11:04:56 PM: Is that target one that you shot? Did everybody just shoot 2 shots at it? Give us the particulars on what you were using when you shot it.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Bigsmoke on September 04, 2025, 11:11:56 PM: Hi Tom, The target was posted at 25 yards. I shot it with the PA Hunter that Kees sold me.
.530 ball, .015 patch with spit lube, 65 grains of Ffg Goex, black English flint, Ffffg prime.
This was before I converted it to percussion. And yes, everyone was supposed to shoot two shots at it.
Actually, the second shot went off just a bit before I intended it to, but the results were sure good. I didn't argue with it.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 05, 2025, 07:06:46 AM: Thanks John. I wouldn't have argued either. Very impressive. Leave it up to those old TC's.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Bigsmoke on September 05, 2025, 05:41:44 PM: Quote from: No Powder on September 05, 2025, 07:06:46 AM
Thanks John. I wouldn't have argued either. Very impressive. Leave it up to those old TC's.

Leave it up to those old TC's.

Yes, leave it up to those old T/C's with a different barrel on it. Well, the same barrel with a bigger bore.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 05, 2025, 08:06:46 PM: Well John, I can't see that a couple larger holes in the target would hurt anything.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Nessmuk on September 06, 2025, 09:01:54 AM: If anyone wants to shoot John's target next year, let me know and I'll put it in the Line-up. :bl th up :bl th up :bl th up
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 06, 2025, 05:38:45 PM: If I'm still here next year, and able to shoot the postals, I don't have a problem with shooting John's target. Won't be the first target with -10 possibilities and probably won't be the last. Mark, you're the NMD here. We are at your mercy.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: KDubs on September 06, 2025, 09:33:55 PM: [ Invalid Attachment ]
Let me finish this movie and I'll let ya know.
Kevin is
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: KDubs on September 07, 2025, 12:20:00 PM: Well Sgt or at the time corporal York wouldn't be too impressed by my shooting.
Should have wet my front sight first.
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This was with my north star trade gun.
First shot right on the bullseye.
Boy was I full of myself.
What's that they say about celebrating too early.
Oh well at least there's October.
Kevin
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 08, 2025, 09:00:54 AM: Ten dead deer in my book Kevin.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Nessmuk on September 08, 2025, 09:04:04 AM: Kevin, You're supposed to print it in "Landscape" mode! The way you did is too small. Try it again in Landscape.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 08, 2025, 09:58:04 AM: I never noticed that Mark. Should make a big difference. Still ten dead deer.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: KDubs on September 08, 2025, 12:10:30 PM: You really think that would help, I mean honestly :luff:
I'll try again but I might just use the ol TC .
I shoot that so much better than my flinters.
Wonder if it's the set triggers.
Since ol York used a capper, I'll honor him.
you are all correct, definitely minute of deer.
Don't think I'll hunt with the trade gun though.
Kevin
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Second-rate Marksman on September 10, 2025, 01:40:00 AM: I?ve got to say, I?m impressed with the groups you pulled off with that trade gun?especially considering the recoil you?re dealing with and the lack of a rear sight to anchor on. Tackling a postal shoot with a smoothbore is no small thing, and I admire the boldness it takes to step up with one.

I thought about posting my own targets with the recently finished Kibler SMR, but I?ve decided to hold off and re-shoot them once I?ve had the chance to properly sight it in and experiment with loads. I?d rather give myself the best shot than settle for something half-dialed.

I picked up an extra drop-in barrel chambered in .45 cal so that I might be able to hunt with this guy this fall.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: KDubs on September 10, 2025, 06:14:11 AM: Eric , great pic by the way, you were shooting great, until your front sight fell out. :bigsmile:
Once that's fixed you should be in the top ten TMA shooters :hairy
Kevin
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 10, 2025, 06:24:18 AM: Eric, Kevin's right. That is a sweet picture. :hairy
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: KDubs on September 10, 2025, 02:40:35 PM: I keep telling him there's $$ in those pictures.
He has a knack.
Kevin
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 10, 2025, 03:06:33 PM: He does for sure.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Second-rate Marksman on September 10, 2025, 07:51:51 PM: Quote from: KDubs on September 10, 2025, 06:14:11 AM
Eric , great pic by the way, you were shooting great, until your front sight fell out. :bigsmile:
Once that's fixed you should be in the top ten TMA shooters :hairy
Kevin

Ha! Thanks, Kev, but I thought the TMA only had about five shooters that actually participate in these postal shoots? 😏

Next time around I am definitely silver-soldering the underside of my front sight instead of staking it. As you know, I was blowing patches too, which explains why my shots kept drifting a couple inches left or right. Meanwhile, I kept chasing the problem by nudging the sight back and forth like it was the culprit.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Salty on September 11, 2025, 12:12:21 PM: Here?s my bullseye. Did my best to tie up with NoPowder.
Sgt York coming soon. But I don?t know if I can match Tom.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 11, 2025, 12:19:01 PM: You matched me and shot a lot smaller group. Good shooting buddy.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Salty on September 11, 2025, 02:57:35 PM: Yeah but you?re shooting off hand. I?m supported.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 11, 2025, 06:49:28 PM: But Salty, my own 2 legs were supporting me. And I'd rather be supported by my legs than my elbows.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Second-rate Marksman on September 14, 2025, 11:14:53 PM: Dag nab it! Missed it by one! Got the Kibler out today and got it sighted in, followed by the postal shoot targets. I am a little baffled: I had to move the front sight noticeably to one side to achieve a true zero. I understand the sighting process, but I have never had to offset the sight this far from center on any other rifle. Wondering if it is just a weird machining quirk or something.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 15, 2025, 11:21:12 AM: Well Eric, I've heard that sometimes a bore is out of center from one end to the other, which sometimes lead to having sights like your front sight is. One way to correct your sight being so far out of center with the flat of the barrel, is by moving both the rear and front sight. Both sights may be off center with the flat of the barrel but it won't be as extreme as yours is. At least you were able to get it shot in.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Hank in WV on September 15, 2025, 06:07:12 PM: There is always the possibility of a bent barrel. Hopefully not.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Second-rate Marksman on September 15, 2025, 09:05:14 PM: Thanks for the input, fellas. Looks like it is off to Jim for a check-up. Fortunately, I have got a .45 caliber barrel that just arrived today, and I am hoping that I can use that in the interim. Fingers crossed it doesn?t have the same issue.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Nessmuk on September 19, 2025, 11:49:00 PM: not so good this month
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: KDubs on September 20, 2025, 07:06:52 AM: Ain't nothing wrong with that bullseye target but I betting the wind came up on that Sgt York target . :lol sign
At least your here participating
Kevin
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 20, 2025, 08:37:03 AM: I agree with Kevin 100%.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Nessmuk on September 20, 2025, 12:11:11 PM: I should have used the Kibler, not the Pedersoli.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 20, 2025, 01:01:55 PM: Were both targets shot with the same gun? Sometimes I realize I took the wrong gun too. But it's always too late. And I don't believe I've ever shot a target over, and I ain't about to start now.
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Winter Hawk on September 21, 2025, 07:39:35 PM: Some people would complain if they were hanged with a brand new rope, I swear! :o A half inch down on elevation and that would have been 50-3X instead of a measly 50. Some people's children! :stooges:

I'm going to try to get out to shoot this week now that the weather forecast is for rain. We need it; we're 2" low for the month. The grass crinkles when you walk on it....

Anyway, I hope you do better next month.... :toast

~Kees~
Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: Winter Hawk on September 24, 2025, 02:39:47 PM: Got 'er done today: :applaud
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Title: Re: SEPTEMBER POSTAL TARGETS and August reslts
Post by: No Powder on September 24, 2025, 04:21:57 PM: Good on ya Kees!!!