Traditional Muzzleloading Association
The Center of Camp => The Campfire => Topic started by: KDubs on September 06, 2025, 06:04:40 PM
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Sitting shooting with Eric and the pass around box came up.
Whatever happened with that?
Kevin
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It's a mystery.
I sure haven't seen it.
Beaverman?? What's going on with it?
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If I remember correctly, he was waiting for one more member to sign up.
~Kees~
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I ah reckon you might be right .
Kevin
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That sounds right to me, also.
Surely there has to be one more person that will get off their duff and sign up?
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Got enough guys now, shipping it this week
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Yippee
I've forgotten who gets it 1st.
Kevin
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Got enough guys now, shipping it this week
YEEHAW!!!
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So where might the box be now and where is she headed?
Kevin
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Once again where o where has this little box gone, where o where can it be.
It was shipped out, or am I dreaming ?
Kevin
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Yes, Inquiring, impatient minds want to know.
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If it was shipped via USPS, it has probably been sitting in the same hub for the last four weeks. 🥴
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Any word yet, has it been lost in a puff of smoke :lol sign
Kevin
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Ok I guessing if it was sent out it got stolen because of all the awesome plunder I'm sure was in it.
If it shows up somewhere please let us know.
Kevin
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I guess we could try contacting the first person to whom it was sent. If that person sent it on, we check with the next recipient, and so on. Unless the Beaverman forgot to mail it! :Doh!
~Kees~
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I PMed Jim a while back but have not recieved a reply yet.
I will do that right now and if/when I get a reply, I will let you know.
I have a suspicion where it might be hiding, but nothing to back it up.
John
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Well, I haven't heard back from Beaverman.
I just checked and the last time he was on the forum was 11/9/2025.
Anyone heard from him lately?
I even emailed him but no reply on that, either.
John
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No haven't heard from him either.
I was a little concerned he hasn't been posting.
Hope all is well
Kevin
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Just bringing this up again, I know it's out there somewhere
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Jim's over on the Muzzleloading Forum as "Beaverman2"; it shows he was last active yesterday. I sent him a message.
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Thank ye muchly, Eric! I hope you get a reply.
~Kees~
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Thank ye muchly, Eric! I hope you get a reply.
~Kees~
Still no reply. A bit odd, considering he's active on the Muzzleloading Forum several times a day, and it shows he's read my message. Maybe he prefers not to be found. *shrugs*
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Well, PHOOEY! It looks like we have lost another member, durn it! I wonder what we did to turn him away....
~Kees~
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Are we sure that Beaverman2 @ the ML forum is our Jim?
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Well, the location matches. Maybe we have offended him in some way?
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Read my post on the Exec board ....
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Where do I find the exec board rob, I'm a little slow these days.
Kevin
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Where do I find the exec board rob, I'm a little slow these days.
Kevin
For TMA officers only.
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10-4
Kevin
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Lemme ask the folks in this thread - what do you expect of your TMA?
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I think most of us expect some basic transparency and communication. People here volunteer their time, care deeply about the organization, and are invested in its success, so even a brief update or simple explanation goes a long way toward maintaining trust and goodwill. Transparency is always appreciated, even when the answer isn't what everyone wants to hear.
My wife and I recently made the difficult decision to leave our local church due to ongoing internal issues and conflict that, in our view, warranted openness but were instead handled quietly by the elders and swept under the rug. We weren't looking for gossip or drama-- only honesty and transparency. When significant matters affect the health and direction of a congregation, we believe the members deserve to be informed and treated as partners rather than bystanders. The lack of communication ultimately made it hard for us to continue in good conscience, and stepping away felt like the only responsible choice.
I don't know Jim from Adam, nor do I know the circumstances that have kept him off the forum for over a month. That said, if there's one thing I can't abide, it's being ghosted or blatantly ignored. No one is so busy that they can't take a minute to acknowledge an email or let folks know what's going on. A short response would do a lot to clear the air and show respect for the people who care enough to ask.
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Just open communication, camaraderie, good will towards man . That sorta thing.
I think most of use develope a kinship will others on this site and we are genuinely concerned when a member seems to , let's say disappear without a trace.
I could care less about that pass around box, was just hoping Jim would chime in.
Kevin
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Welcomed comments, Eric and Kevin - thank you.
I do not foresee or want the TMA to end. But clearly it is not what long ago it once was. I don't see a change to our goals, but it's been a tough road to garner more participants.
Humans want change, humans hate change, but change is inevitable.
Maybe the TMA needs to make some changes, become more attractive to the trad muzzleloading communities.
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Lemme ask the folks in this thread - what do you expect of your TMA?
What do I expect? Well, quite a lot, actually.
1. To be respected and not ignored.
2. To have intelligent conversations with other people on the board.
3. To be able to learn something occasionally.
4. To be entertained with hunting and shooting stories.
5. To have a place where people will troubleshoot a problem.
6. To have a place where I can post an item for sale and have a reasonably good chance of selling it.
7. To have a place where I can be of assistance to others from my experiences.
8. To have a place where people stick around and don't walk out unexpectedly but stay and make the forum advance. It should be interesting enough that the membership doesn't just walk out without a by your leave or anything. It appears that is exactly what is happening here and I don't really like it. Sorry I don't have a magic wand to wave over my computer and make active participants appear. There appears that another forum had over 30 topics of conversation yesterday and if their count is correct, there were over 200 submissions there. Why not here? That is something the exec committee needs to discuss and figure out a fix for the problem. Else this place is going to become a ghost town, it is already a shadow of its previous self.
So Rob, that is what I expect.
John (Bigsmoke)
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Back in June of 2024, I was seriously thinking about leaving my membership expire after 19 yrs. of membership. I had said at some point, that I didn't feel welcome for several reasons. Jim responded by saying I would always be welcome here. Meant a lot to me. In June of this year I did leave my membership expire. John noticed that it had expired and sent me a pm to see if what he was seeing was correct. Thank you again John. I felt guilty and had left down the friends I have made in this organization. So I renewed. So maybe we just need to say, you will always be welcome here Jim. Too many times I have inquired about someone's absence only to find out they were deceased. I don't think Eric and John could have said it any better. Make people feel they're welcome. Just my $.02 worth.
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Lemme ask the folks in this thread - what do you expect of your TMA?
What do I expect? Well, quite a lot, actually.
1. To be respected and not ignored.
2. To have intelligent conversations with other people on the board.
3. To be able to learn something occasionally.
4. To be entertained with hunting and shooting stories.
5. To have a place where people will troubleshoot a problem.
6. To have a place where I can post an item for sale and have a reasonably good chance of selling it.
7. To have a place where I can be of assistance to others from my experiences.
8. To have a place where people stick around and don't walk out unexpectedly but stay and make the forum advance. It should be interesting enough that the membership doesn't just walk out without a by your leave or anything. It appears that is exactly what is happening here and I don't really like it. Sorry I don't have a magic wand to wave over my computer and make active participants appear. There appears that another forum had over 30 topics of conversation yesterday and if their count is correct, there were over 200 submissions there. Why not here? That is something the exec committee needs to discuss and figure out a fix for the problem. Else this place is going to become a ghost town, it is already a shadow of its previous self.
So Rob, that is what I expect.
John (Bigsmoke)
Everyone has always had your 1-7, but your number 8 is unreasonable if it's considered a mandate because no one can control the actions of others, it is what it is.
There appears that another forum had over 30 topics of conversation yesterday and if their count is correct, there were over 200 submissions there. Why not here?
I think the big TMA thing is is that we've lost the core members who would always be online starting new threads and/or posting their opinions to all threads, and those members haven't been back filled.
What does the TMA have to offer registrants that's better than, or at least comparable to the other trad ML forums?
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I think the small more personal experience here.
I've been on the bigger sites and often see the rudeness that can come from a larger sampling of the public.
I for one will not belong to those larger sites, if TMA goes away, so do I.
About ready to give up on FB too.
As stated earlier, I feel that I've made some friends here, I don't think that would happen on the big sites.
Just my opinion
Kevin
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I agree Kevin, and I will NOT allow TMA to disappear, even if I have to fund it myself.
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It's a bit of a catch-22, you know? On one hand, the smaller, more intimate forums have a real appeal-- they foster familiarity, thoughtful discussion, and a sense of community that's hard to replicate at scale. On the other hand, some degree of growth is necessary if a forum is going to remain vibrant, relevant, and sustainable over the long term. Without new voices and fresh participation, even the best communities eventually stagnate.
One of the things I genuinely appreciate about this forum is its commitment to free expression. There's room here for people to be themselves without unnecessary constraints. By contrast, some larger platforms seem to overcorrect in the name of moderation. The Muzzleloading Forum, for instance, has gone so far as to prohibit any religious tags in user signatures. Policies like that may be well-intentioned, but they can also feel unnecessarily restrictive and subtly discourage personal expression.
To me, a healthy forum strikes a balance: encouraging growth without sacrificing its culture, and moderating responsibly without stifling individuality. That balance -community, openness, and sustainability- is what keeps a forum not just alive, but worth participating in.