Traditional Muzzleloading Association
Craftsmanship => Gun Building and Repair => Topic started by: RobD on December 21, 2025, 06:51:06 AM
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A forthcoming new kit offering from Jim. In his words ...
"Here's the cool thing that gets me excited... We'll be able to offer this at a VERY good price. And, it should be really straightforward to build. I hope this helps entice those who are more budget conscious. There's a huge sea of potential customers out there and I hope we can capture many of them.
It will have the late Ketland lock. The current version has a 38" barrel and will be available in .32 through .50 calibers. I'm not sure if we'll do smooth bore in any of these smaller calibers. We might do a smooth .50. but I'm not sure.
This [PROTOTYPE as seen in the above image] was printed with some wood filled filament. After the print, I sanded it really quickly. Probably no more than 5-10 minutes. Then I stained it quickly to just give it the feel of a real gun.
It's a wood powder filled filament. So, it is more like wood after being printed. It can be sanded to some degree and can be stained a little easier. It's also basically a shell with a grid pattern in-fill, so it is lighter than wood. [The actual kit offered will have a maple stock, along with a number of options for bore, rifling or smooth, bbl length.]
I've had some suggestions for a longer barreled version as well, so I've designed one with a 44" barrel. I would like to offer both, but I have to be careful about how many options we offer. We'll see...
One other cool thing about this project... A portion of every kit sale will be donated to the Hershel House Foundation. My friend Ian Pratt has forged out a guard that will be perfect for the project and really add to the overall appeal. Should be really neat.
Here's the funny thing about a butt plate... They aren't needed. The gun butt is unlikely to deteriorate, break, chip to any degree etc,. with normal use. If you look at many or probably most original guns like this the butt has held up just fine. Look at all of the fantastic plain guns Allen Martin has made. They work fine.
Sure will have a nicely swamped barrel."
Other of Jim's considerations is to offer the ignition as either flintlock or percussion, and perhaps larger bores as well.
SO, Jim will be offering two new kits in early 2026 - a 1756 Long Land Pattern Brown Bess and a Barn Gun. Wow! :bl th up :bl th up
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I think he's gonna sell bunches of those barn guns.
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I gotta ask, what's wood filled filament.
Is this a 3d printed stock??
Not sure that would persuade me to buy one if that's the case, IDK
Kevin
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I gotta ask, what's wood filled filament.
Is this a 3d printed stock??
Not sure that would persuade me to buy one if that's the case, IDK
Kevin
Yes, Jim did a 3D model as a prototype only. The Barn Gun kit will sport a maple stock.
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Quality parts for an inexpensive but good quality rifle,.... what's not to like? :applaud
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What am I missing here? Why didn't he just make the prototype out of wood?
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What am I missing here? Why didn't he just make the prototype out of wood?
Ask Jim. 8)
But seriously, doing a 3D modeling is SO much faster and easier than programming a CNC machine to build a prototype for overall stock dimensions.
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Ok good, I was confused.
Wood is good.
Kevin
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According to GOOGLE.
Yes, a CNC machine can perfectly copy a physical prototype by first creating a digital 3D model (CAD) from the prototype (often via 3D scanning) and then precisely milling identical parts from various materials like plastic or metal, offering high accuracy and repeatability for functional product testing.
That's why he did a 3D model first. Clever Fellow!
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I think it'd be easy to predict the Kibler Barn Gun will be a big seller and increase the ranks of trad ML participants. Win-Win! :bl th up :bl th up
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Hope it's a big hit, I've been thinking about a smaller caliber rifle say 36-40 maybe so this my satisfy that itch until he makes a flint pistol.
That 3d think had me worried he was going the way of the nylon-22 for those of you who remember those.
Kevin
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Hope it's a big hit, I've been thinking about a smaller caliber rifle say 36-40 maybe so this my satisfy that itch until he makes a flint pistol.
That 3d think had me worried he was going the way of the nylon-22 for those of you who remember those.
Kevin
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Remington Nylon 66, had one, good little .22LR semi-auto, back in the '60s.
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Remington Nylon 66, had one, good little .22LR semi-auto, back in the '60s.
Same here. :bl th up
Good little rifle and worth some money now days.
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66 that's it
Kevin