Traditional Muzzleloading Association
Shooting Traditional Firearms and Weapons => General Interest => Topic started by: No Powder on January 05, 2026, 02:58:24 PM
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I've used the product on the left for many years on threaded parts. Getting low, decided to get a new tube. I couldn't find any, but found this instead. Doesn't have TC on the tube, but some of the info is similar. Can anybody tell me if these two products are the same thing. Photography skills are limited, so I apologize for the picture quality. [ Invalid Attachment ]
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No idea, Tom, I am not familiar with either of the products.
After the Ox Yoke business got sold off to RMC, I am not sure if T/C uses them as a source or not.
And after T/C got sold to Smith and Wesson, I think the only thing the bean counters would be interested in is a sex lube. :luff:
As a guess, I would think they are maybe at least related.
I never take the breech plug out of my firearms, so the nipple is the only thing I ever remove. I use a smidge of Bumbling Bear Grease from October Country for lubing the nipple before reinstalling it.
Just for grins, I Googled T/C Arms and found this https://northamerican-outdoorsman.com/thompson-center-arms-returning-to-its-roots-and-forging-a-new-future/
A very interesting article and definitely worth a read. Since I got my first muzzleloading rifle, a T/C Renegade in .54 percussion, T/C has always been a favorite of mine. I have owned a bunch of them.
I don't think T/C offers any sort of lube products at this time.
But then, I digress...
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The image shows two tubes of Super Lube synthetic lubricants.
The product on the left is a Super Lube Anti-Seize Lubricant with PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene), designed for firearms, breech plugs, choke tubes, and actions.
The product on the right is Super Lube Synthetic Grease which is a heavy-duty, multipurpose lubricant with PTFE.
The synthetic grease is NSF H-1 rated, making it safe for incidental food contact.
It is suitable for a wide range of applications including hunting, fishing, hobby, household, marine, automotive, and inline skates.
It operates over a wide temperature range, is dielectric, water-resistant, and non-staining.
This what I found
Kevin
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Thank you very much Kevin. I was using the TC product on the threads of the touch hole liner. I think I'll try the other one on the threads too. I'm sure I'll know if it isn't working.
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My pleasure, glad you could use the information
Kevin
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What will matter to me is the temperature rating of any anti-seize grease, which is why I use Jet Lube Nikal for anything screwed into a black powder bbl.
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2600 *F huh. Pretty durn hot !
Never looked into what kind of temps might occur at the breech upon touching her off.
Bet it's pretty hot too.
Kevin
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So you don't think a wide temperature rating will be sufficient?
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From Instant Frostbite to glowing Cherry Red!! Yeah, I think that will cover it for you. :laffing :laffing :laffing
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So you don't think a wide temperature rating will be sufficient?
Depends on what is a "wide temperature rating". Is there a temp range rating for SuperLube?
Permatex, which is aluminum based, has a -60F to 1600F rating which would work for me.
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Really quick search shows average BP temps to ignite between 500 f - 860 f with a combustion temp of just north of 2550 f
Better get the jet lube :hairy
Kevin
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Really quick search shows average BP temps to ignite between 500 f - 860 f with a combustion temp of just north of 2550 f
Better get the jet lube :hairy
Kevin
Anything that's decent is better than nothing. Breech threads are hidden from direct contact with ignition, so a temp range is really all about how long the lube/grease will last before getting cooked out.
For me, this thread lubing/greasing concern is about ease of removal and something is way better than the nothing.
With all the Kibler breech plugs I've removed so far - a dozen - I never detected any lube/grease. To be fair, they were all relatively easy to remove with proper tools. Which makes sense since these bbls and plugs were never fired, ever. Jim's remarks in forum posts concerning the anti-seize lubing/greasing of breech plugs, or anything screwed into a BP bbl, is mostly on the order of it doesn't matter. I think that's a long term mistake. There is NO need to remove breech plugs for any cleaning/maintenance reason. But there are some RARE instances when it is desirable, such as installing a new touch hole liner, or a stuck ball/load that won't respond to normal methods, or to lap the bore, or to "fresh" the bore. For a few bucks cost of any quality anti-seize lube/grease, if ya can do it, why not?
The offshore gun breech plugs are hit or miss for more than a few reasons. None are lubed at all, for the few dozen I've pulled off over the decades. Some that were in brandy new guns were near impossible to remove; it was like they were welded on. Here's some text from the Traditions manual for their traditional side lock guns ...
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... interesting, eh?