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The Center of Camp => People of the Times => Topic started by: Gambia on July 19, 2008, 10:21:41 AM

Title: John Paul Jones
Post by: Gambia on July 19, 2008, 10:21:41 AM: I am seeking information for research on a naval man by the name of John Paul Jones.He was an English naval man who during the War Of Independence joined the American Navy,I am also looking for information on his personal weapons.
Feltwad
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A Flint Lock will not secure a chicken house door
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Post by: RichW on July 19, 2008, 11:48:33 AM: http://books.google.com/books?q=john+pa ... s&as_brr=1 (http://books.google.com/books?q=john+paul+jones&as_brr=1)
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Post by: Indiana on July 19, 2008, 01:06:58 PM: I don't think you should have to look very hard to find info on him. But I don't have any resources off the top of my head! :lol: Good luck with ya search.
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Post by: Gambia on July 19, 2008, 05:29:07 PM: The Google books are a big help,but with a man of his status his personal weapons must be displayed in some museum.
I would be interested to find if he was also a game shooting person or a Fowler because the part of Scotland from which he came from is to this day well renowned for its wildfowl shooting.
Feltwad
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A Flint Lock will not secure a chicken house door
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Post by: mario on July 19, 2008, 08:18:15 PM: Best bet would be to contact the museum at the US Naval Acadamy (Annapolis, Maryland) where he's buried.

Mario
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Post by: sse on July 19, 2008, 08:27:37 PM: Did anyone read the two successive articles in Muzzleloader Magazine issues regarding the building of the first three U.S. frigates and the country's first naval battles on the north coast of Africa? Absolutely fascinating! I read them twice already...
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Post by: Loyalist Dave on July 21, 2008, 06:31:34 PM: I thought he was a Scot?

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Post by: Minnesota Mike on July 22, 2008, 10:20:43 AM: He was.

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John Paul Jones was born 'John Paul' in 1747, on the estate of Arbigland near Kirkbean in the Stewartry of Kirkcudbright on the southern coast of Scotland. John Paul's father was a gardener at Arbigland, and his mother was a member of Clan MacDuff. John Paul started his maritime career at the age of 13, sailing out of Whitehaven in the northern English county of Cumberland, as apprentice aboard the Friendship. During his numerous journeys to Fredericksburg, Virginia aboard this ship, Jones was likely able to visit his brother who had settled in the area. For the next several years he sailed aboard a number of different British merchant and slaver ships, including the King George in 1764 as third mate, and the Two Friends as first mate in 1766.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_Jones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_Jones)

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^ a b SeacoastNH.com - John Paul Jones Timeline
^ http://www.history.navy.mil/bios/jones_jp_conrad.htm/ (http://www.history.navy.mil/bios/jones_jp_conrad.htm/)
^ a b c d Jones, John Paul (1785), Extracts from the Journals of my Campaigns, <http>. Retrieved on 27 October 2007
^ a b c Jones, John Paul (May 27 1778), Report to the American Plenipotentiaries at the Court of Versailles, <http>. Retrieved on 27 October 2007
^ Green, Ezra (1875), Diary of Ezra Green M.D., <http>. Retrieved on 27 October 2007
^ â€œnews report from Whitehavenâ€, Cumberland Chronicle, April 25 1778, <http>
^ Adams, John (1778), autobiography part 2, 'Travels, and Negotiations', Massachusetts Historical Society, <http>. Retrieved on 27 October 2007
^ Log of the 'Bon Homme Richard', 1779, John Paul Jones Cottage Museum, <http>. Retrieved on 27 October 2007
^ Officers of the American Squadron: Affidavit, Oct 30 1779, yorkshirehistory.com, <http>. Retrieved on 27 October 2007
^ a b Jones, John Paul (October 3 1779), Letter to Benjamin Franklin, yorkshirehistory.com, <http>. Retrieved on 27 October 2007
^ â€œnews report from Yorkshireâ€, York Courant (yorkshirehistory.com), October 12 1779, <http>
^ Pearson, Capt. Richard (October 6 1779), Report on the capture of his ship Serapis, yorkshirehistory.com, <http>. Retrieved on 27 October 2007
^ Roosevelt, Theodore Dedication speech, Annapolis (24 Apr 1906)- via theodore-roosevelt.com
^ USNA Traditions US Naval Academy Alumni Association
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Post by: Minnesota Mike on July 22, 2008, 10:31:41 AM: Also found this site -

http://www.yorkshirehistory.com/flam/fl ... h_head.htm (http://www.yorkshirehistory.com/flam/flambororough_head.htm)

- excellent source of additional info and a true scholarly approach to the entire battle off Flambough Head between Serapis and Bonhomme Richard.

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Post by: Uncle Russ on July 22, 2008, 11:57:31 AM: Quote from: "Minnesota Mike"
Also found this site -

http://www.yorkshirehistory.com/flam/fl ... h_head.htm (http://www.yorkshirehistory.com/flam/flambororough_head.htm)

- excellent source of additional info and a true scholarly approach to the entire battle off Flambough Head between Serapis and Bonhomme Richard.

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Mike, Thanks for the link, a very interesting read!

I certainly don't want to get off the subject here, but having spent 23 years on Active duty with the U.S.Army, I could not help but be drawn to the part of the Courts Martial of Captian Pearson, and Captian Piercy....I am amazed that such things have come to light, both past and present, while in the heat of a raging battle.

Uncle Russ...
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Post by: Gambia on July 22, 2008, 12:25:15 PM: Still no info on his personal weapons ,for his status his guns which most likely would have been both military and sporting must be housed in some museum or maybe a private collection.
Feltwad
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Post by: Pichou on July 24, 2008, 04:21:07 PM: Hello,

I would start here

http://www.seacoastnh.com/dct/jpjgun.html (http://www.seacoastnh.com/dct/jpjgun.html)

Here

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h ... 946497D6CF (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=950DE6DE143AE733A25751C1A9659C946497D6CF)

This musket was used by Jones and presented to Franklin:

(http://hoover.archives.gov/exhibits/RevAmerica/4-Where/6fJohnPaulJones.jpg)

Sword at Annapolis

(http://www.noquartergiven.net/images/jpj_cut.jpg)

Also check here. They calim to have guns too.
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Post by: Gambia on July 25, 2008, 02:00:11 AM: Pichou.
I would be interested to know if the musket is still there and who was the maker.
May I thank all of those that answered my thread the information has been help full
Feltwad
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A Flint Lock will not secure a chicken house door
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Post by: Pichou on July 29, 2008, 11:43:57 AM: Sorry I should have put the links in.

http://hoover.archives.gov/exhibits/Rev ... e/JPJ.html (http://hoover.archives.gov/exhibits/RevAmerica/4-Where/JPJ.html)

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MUSKET used by John Paul Jones on the Bonhomme Richard during the battle with the Serapis, and presented by Jones to Benjamin Franklin (the ship's namesake)
On loan from the collection of:
--Georgia Historical Society, Atlanta GA

John Paul Jones House Museum
http://www.seacoastnh.com/touring/jpjhouse.html (http://www.seacoastnh.com/touring/jpjhouse.html)

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Collections:
furniture, clothing, guns, china, glassware, local portraits, wedding gowns, toys, samplers, canes, documents
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Post by: Gambia on July 31, 2008, 12:54:58 AM: Thanks Pichou and others for the links to my requests ,disapointed that those links in the States will not reply to my e-mails something I must remember in future.
Feltwad
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A Flint Lock will not secure a chicken house door
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Post by: Pichou on July 31, 2008, 01:58:04 PM: Been there, done that. Tell them you're writing a book or something, and drop a few names or obscure facts. That might help get you in the door.

Some of these curators could make more money working at McDonalds, and wouldn't have to work as hard either.

So you have to do something to get them interested in you.