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The Center of Camp => People of the Times => Topic started by: IronBull on January 17, 2009, 12:16:17 AM

Title: RE: Native Indian Re-enacting
Post by: IronBull on January 17, 2009, 12:16:17 AM

Hello, I have been tossing around the idea of a persona of woodland indian. I am 3/4 Native American Indian. One problem I have is the other,European blood has left me with no hair up top for a scalp lock. Also I have already forked out some dough for a wedge tent, was wondering if there is a way to make the tent look like a Indian shelter, mabye some pics or websites showing such would help, or any ideas.

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Post by: Captchee on January 17, 2009, 10:34:09 AM

well the first thing i would ask is what time fraim and people  and location .
 the hair is no problem . even the wedge depending on the time fraim , isnt a real problem , just leave the ends open .

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Post by: Eric S Campbell on January 17, 2009, 11:49:48 AM

I can only echo what Captchee has already said.

Have you decided on a place and location?

After that, research, research, and research.

You can buy a prosthetic scalp lock.

Then research some more lol.

I could help more if I knew a location and time.

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Post by: Pichou on January 17, 2009, 02:08:28 PM

Scalp locks can be on the back of the head.

Wedge tents are known.

You Ojibwe or Odawa?  French?  Got any Roy, Campion, Lavallée kin?


Lucas Roy, originally from Detroit.

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Post by: IronBull on January 18, 2009, 09:53:51 AM

Well I am Apache, Choctaw from my fathers side, and Chippewa and German from my mothers side. I was looking at French and Indian war time period. The wedge tent has only one opening!

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Post by: Loyalist Dave on January 18, 2009, 02:27:21 PM

Where were you looking to play?  You probably don't have to go it alone, so you won't need the Indian style shelter to begin with no?  You can always roll up in a couple of blankets by the fire if the night is dry.  

LD

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Post by: IronBull on January 18, 2009, 04:39:35 PM

Well the one rendezvous we have been attending and camping is not a judged event, which is really helpfull to us who are really just beginning. Ive invested some what into camp items, but nothing really of one persona type if you will. I would like to go native as I said, in my blood. So really just looking for advice, ideas. Want to be p.c as possible, this I know will take time, research,research, and more research. Looking maybe to be close to my Chippewa roots, I do believe they were heavily involved with the French and Indian war time period.

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Post by: Pichou on January 18, 2009, 06:26:37 PM

You bet we were!   :shake

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Post by: IronBull on January 18, 2009, 06:37:23 PM

Well one would be the shelter, were wedge's around during French and Indian war time period, I dont believe the native's would have used these, but I am thinkin mabye if I change the pole's to more natural pole's and on the oustside instead of inside may work, opinions greatly appreciated!!!!

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Post by: Voyageur on January 19, 2009, 10:41:25 AM

:lol

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Post by: Captchee on January 19, 2009, 04:41:12 PM

well persay a wedge shaped  shelter ? i seem to recall some paintings  with  such items in them from that period .
as to canvas ?
a lean to would probably be more corrects  but  were there not discriptions of  americian indians peoples using  sail cloth  for shelters while camping around the forts ???
 frankly Pichou or Eric could probably give better  substanciated documentation to that

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Post by: Pichou on January 19, 2009, 09:01:34 PM

There was a mention of Natives using canvas tents in the F&I or Rev. War on campaign with the Brits.  Not a big deal.  Easier than lugging cattail mats and birch bark rolls everywhere, and cutting trees at every campsite.   ;)

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Post by: IronBull on January 20, 2009, 06:37:05 PM

Well I have read a few if you say rules at some clubs web-sites for rendezvous and re-enactment's on shelter's/tents. The common one I have seen is that no tipi's for Eastern Woodland natives as there is no documentation of those east of the Mississippi.

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Post by: Pichou on January 21, 2009, 12:09:41 PM

There were no rendezvous east of the Mississippi, except at Grand Portage and Ft. William (Thunder Bay, ON).  

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Post by: IronBull on January 21, 2009, 08:33:44 PM

What I think they meant is no Tipi's at their rendezvous/re-enactments due to the no Tipi's east of the Mississippi.

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Post by: bluelake on April 03, 2009, 02:10:29 AM

Quote from: "Pichou"

Scalp locks can be on the back of the head.

Wedge tents are known.

You Ojibwe or Odawa?  French?  Got any Roy, Campion, Lavallée kin?


Lucas Roy, originally from Detroit.

As I'm new to the TMA and the forums, I just saw this thread.  I'm Odawa on my dad's side (member of the Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa Indians) and WASP on my mom's.  The old joke in our family is that my mom is very proud that her ancestors were in America many years before the Mayflower (1602); my dad's response is that his ancestors were there to shake hands with hers.  

Title: tipis
Post by: Shawnee Mike on February 07, 2010, 05:03:48 PM

Quote from: "IronBull"

What I think they meant is no Tipi's at their rendezvous/re-enactments due to the no Tipi's east of the Mississippi.

  Ah !!  No Tipis
   But there WERE conical lodges that look VERY simillar to tipis except made of reeds or bark.  Same shape, but wider at bottom and shorter.  Most Lay-folks would call them a tipi, But they would be wrong.

Title: Re: RE: Native Indian Re-enacting
Post by: Geezer in NH on July 21, 2014, 07:02:27 PM

3/4 you are native American by the feds. I am by my GM and GF on both sides and cannot prove 1/32 so I am a freaking white Caucasian wish I had that problem. Bitter I am