SCOTS in the FUR TRADE

[Spotted Bull]

That is one of the thing I am having trouble with.  My Dad's side is German, Mom' sis Scottish, so which sied would be better to research for a persona?

[Minnesota Mike]

Depends on what you want to be for a persona and when.

The Scots were heavily involved in the fur trade, the germans were not.

A lot Germans in the westward movement from initial settlements going into Shenandoah valley and into Pennsylvania, western New York. A lot of skilled trademen - especially gunmakers - were German.

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MM

[Spotted Bull]

Well, I have been wanting to get into gun making.

[Minnesota Mike]

Hmmm . . . cool. Then you may very well want to pursue the German side.

Should be very interesting researching out how they built the rifles back in the day and being conversant enough with that to talk the talk as your persona. Very interesting indeed.

And there should be ample research material out there for you to indulge in. I'm positive that the folks here can point you in the right direction for some outstanding reference material. I'd post in the Gun Building forum that you want to portray a gunbuilder of German extraction in year _____ and are looking for reference material as to how you would have accomplished you trade and the tools you would have used.

Bet you get a bevy of responses.

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MM

[Puffer]

So, what happens if 1/2 your family is Ulster-Scots and the other 1/4 are Highlanders with the other 1/4 being Lowland Scots.  That was before coming to  America obviously.

There are Lucky's, Copelands, Croslands. Wipples, McGregors, Polks, Watson's, Grahams, as well as shirt tail Boones.  All strung together in my family tree -

But, my main line (Patriachial) and surname are Ulster-Scots.  Hickam

But, now tying it to the discussion - I am busy researching a persona of an Irish-Scot trader/trapper working for Manuel Lisa at Ft Manuel in 1812-13.

 

Puffer

[nessy357]

On my Mother's side I am a Nesbit from the Lowlands northern coast.  I was able to trace her side two generations back into Scotland.  I believe that there is a Nesbitt house still standing there, though not owned by a Nesbitt at this time.

Another Nesbitt right here RB, I can only trace my family to Ireland,in the  late 1800's. I surmise they went to Ireland after the battle of Culloden Moor and the subsequent break up of the clans.
No proof just a hunch.
My Mother was a McGuire, and a homesick warbride, so back in '52 the family moved to Scotland.We returned back to Canada in '66
Nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
Cheers Bob

[Spotted Bull]

They finally let me back on......

Anyway, I used ancestory.com and their free trial period and got a lot of info that way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Nesbitt is a good site as well.  I can get ya a copy of our tartan if ya be needin it.

[nessy357]

Thanks Cuz    Very interesting , I passed them on to my brothers also. My youngest brother is making a family tree at
http://www.tribalpages.com
Cheers Bob.

[RichW]

I find this to be a very handy site.  By using the index instead of the search, you will find more than you ever thought existed.

http://www.houseoftartan.co.uk/house/tfinder.htp

For Nisbit, I get
http://www.house-of-tartan.scotland.net ... Nisbet.gif
Dating to 1842

Nisbitt Rose Dress only dates to 1981
http://www.house-of-tartan.scotland.net ... isbett.gif