barrel weight and lock size

[huntinguy]

Capthcee got me thinking with his comment on bedding slim barrels.... Not good for me  

Is a 40 cal A weight barrel too light to inlet? does it need to be bedded? As I look at it is pretty slim at the  .700 spot. Also, on that note, I have seen posted here pictures of a rifle that has a fat fore-stock, looks kinda chubby but, with a light barrel is that a good idea?

What size lock should I be thinking of? I like the looks of the small siler (that is what I am putting into my current build). But, at 950 would that lock be too small? I am still undecided what the rifle will look like. Just doing some pre planning planning. I am hopping to make a light rifle in the Rev to pre Rev style.

[pathfinder]

Not all that many :Light" rifles of that period. I use small Silers,Manton's and Durrs-Egg on my "A" wieght barrel's.

As far as bedding them,I havent..YET,but I may one day. I havent read the thread,so I'm in the dark as too the reason,but Charles is rarely ever wrong!

[huntinguy]

Not all that many :Light" rifles of that period. I use small Silers,Manton's and Durrs-Egg on my "A" wieght barrel's.

Ya, well, I am not as tough as those folks so I am compensating. :rt th

[Captchee]

Capthcee got me thinking with his comment on bedding slim barrels.... Not good for me  

Is a 40 cal A weight barrel too light to inlet? does it need to be bedded? As I look at it is pretty slim at the  .700 spot. Also, on that note, I have seen posted here pictures of a rifle that has a fat fore-stock, looks kinda chubby but, with a light barrel is that a good idea?

What size lock should I be thinking of? I like the looks of the small siler (that is what I am putting into my current build). But, at 950 would that lock be too small? I am still undecided what the rifle will look like. Just doing some pre planning planning. I am hopping to make a light rifle in the Rev to pre Rev style.

 coudl you provide me with a link  so i can put  the bedding  statment in a context  of what i was discussing at the time ?

 no its not to light  to inlet . its fine . you just have to make sure your inlet is true . if its not  the barrel will easily bend to the  inlet . Round barrels are even more subject to this the octagon barrels are . But even small thing octagon barrel can easily bend to  warped stock .
  Only for a very few circumstances would you even need to consider beading a barrel .
as to  rifles being clunky with such a small barrel .
 There may be reasons for this .
 One reason is that the gun  may have been made from a pre-carve . See a lot of times with pre-carved stock , the  web between the RR channel and the barrel channel is  very thick .
To thick IMO .
 So what end up happening is that the  stock ends up being thick  and narrow vs. wide and thin   in  its profile .
 In other words the rifle may look thin when viewed from the muzzle , top , bottom or butt. But when viewed from the side , it appears thick .
 that’s just one of the problems  that can be ran into with pre-carve stocks .

As to lock size . It really depends . If your making a small thin  very light rifle , then a large lock may lock rather out of place  proportion wise . But again it depends on the stock , if the stock lines are  left rather hefty , then a small lock can look just as wrong as to large a lock

[huntinguy]

I apologies to Captchee and the forum. It was not a post here. I guess I need more coffee.

I will keep looking for the rifle to example. I thought it was here also, but... it was an old post and will take awhile. I should have looked it up and linked it first... sorry.

(now you know why I have so many projects in work.......   )

[Captchee]

ha no issues .
  realize though that just as i said on the other forum , a muzzle loading barrel is bedded  by the action of inletting it . how good a bedding job that is depends on how well the barrel is inlet .
 there are time when glass bedding may be desired . but for the most part if the  gun is built right , it shouldn’t be needed .

also as i mentioned on the other forum , small thin barrel are subject to  being drawn from side to side and up and down  with stock movement . but how much effect that  has is dictated alot by the wood thats chosen to be used  for a stock . the consistency of grain .......
 but for the most part i really wouldn’t worry to much about that  with the barrel your  looking at  unless you run into issues down the road at some time

[huntinguy]

I found the front shot of the rifle I was looking at... I found this picture in my reference pictures I ... hmm borrowed from things I saw that were interesting.

should this be done with an A weight barrel? or can I go with a scaled down for-end?

[Captchee]

ya ,  it could be alittle slimmer but thats  comon to  make the forarm wide . it wont make the gun  chunky . it infact will make it look slimmer from the side .