Moccasin pattern

[W. Welshman]

Looking for a good moc pattern. I have all this leather, sewing machine, and cold feet. Need something a little higher just above  the ankle by three inches. Trying to keep it from rolling.Please need to warm these old feet,I got snow

[Captchee]

i probably got  a pattern,  from full  above the calf Apache  to the lower above the ankle Navaho or  Black foot .
 But it also depends on what your looking for .
 You want a pucker toe, side seam  , center seam

with many of the  higher mocs ,  the upper  flaps  are not fringed  and are left  wider so that they can be  simply foulded up  over the ankle and wraped  with a lace for use in the winter . in other words the only thing that really changes in the basic pattern is the  width of the flaps  around the top . they also often taper out alot more so that they can be over lapped
 other times as in the case with the later Black foot boots , the uppers are a sepreat piece thats sewn on

try this link , it may help you decide as well as help you in a enternet search
http://www.nativetech.org/clothing/moccasin/mocmap.html

[W. Welshman]

Captchee, I'm thinking side sean, or like this without the sole.

[Captchee]

well without a sole  that would be a pucker toe . you just cant see the pucker from the bead work .
 note that the upper is a seprate piece just like i sugested.
take a look at the Flatehead  mocs on the link i posted

[Captchee]

here is a black foot moc from 1880


as you can see its a simple fold over side seam  with a 2nd taller upper added so that they can be wrapped around the ankle

[W. Welshman]

Charles, That's it, Thank you

[Woodrock]

I have been using George white's 'Craft Manual of North American Indian footwear' since I found it in 1970. He talks you through making the patterns for each type, and most the major moccasin types are covered.  I usually make the Salish (Flathead) for myself, which is similar to what you what.  For this time of year in Ideeho, get a pair of felt packs, and measure your foot wool socks and them on.  I wore canvas Mukluks with felt packs, and wool socks in the Antarctic and never had cold feet.  Not much difference between buckskin, and the canvas.....except looks.
Woody

[greggholmes]

I have been using George white's 'Craft Manual of North American Indian footwear' since I found it in 1970. He talks you through making the patterns for each type, and most the major moccasin types are covered.  I usually make the Salish (Flathead) for myself, which is similar to what you what.  For this time of year in Ideeho, get a pair of felt packs, and measure your foot wool socks and them on.  I wore canvas Mukluks with felt packs, and wool socks in the Antarctic and never had cold feet.  Not much difference between buckskin, and the canvas.....except looks.
Woody

I just got that book from my parents, we have had it for decades..

[Mad Irish Jack]

I have a pattern for the Ft Ligonier boot that I got from the historical society of the fort. I've made a pair for summer wear and a winter pac boot.
Winter

Summer

[MissouriKid87]

Is there a pattern for Missouri moccasin? I.would like to be able to wear them while out hunting.

[Mad Irish Jack]

I don't know anything about a MO moccasin. If you check with some of the historical associations in MO they may be able to help.

[MissouriKid87]

Or any of the Plains Indian mocs?

[Mad Irish Jack]

If you do a search for "How to make plains indian moccasins." You will get lots of patterns and instructions. That's how I got started with mine.