What knives were really carried?

[Loyalist Dave]

i cast a jaundiced eye at some of the modern thinking about the 18th and 19th century times....,  weaponry was the best you could afford and/or make, ....,

I agree, but let's not forget about, find, eh?  I think it's modern thinking for folks to disregard that one purchased the best one could afford that was available, which is not necessarily the same as what the buyer wanted, or the best that existed in that time period.  We tend to look backward at the whole of the material culture and make the mistake of thinking X item (be it knife, or tool, or whatnot) was as easily obtained as it would be today, and that everybody had an equal number of options limited solely on price.  Whatever tool a person had, may have been carried because that was the only size/shape of that tool for sale by the merchant when the buyer was buying.  So there wasn't a choice made.  The item was not the "preferred" version, but simply the available version.  You bought the best you could find, which might be only one version of the item, or you went without.   

So..., perhaps sometimes the question should be asked..., was the predominant design of anything the "best" out there, OR was it simply the one most produced, and thus being the most available did it default into the position of "most common"? 

LD 

[RobD]

i cast a jaundiced eye at some of the modern thinking about the 18th and 19th century times....,  weaponry was the best you could afford and/or make, ....,

I agree, but let's not forget about, find, eh?  I think it's modern thinking for folks to disregard that one purchased the best one could afford that was available, which is not necessarily the same as what the buyer wanted, or the best that existed in that time period.  We tend to look backward at the whole of the material culture and make the mistake of thinking X item (be it knife, or tool, or whatnot) was as easily obtained as it would be today, and that everybody had an equal number of options limited solely on price.  Whatever tool a person had, may have been carried because that was the only size/shape of that tool for sale by the merchant when the buyer was buying.  So there wasn't a choice made.  The item was not the "preferred" version, but simply the available version.  You bought the best you could find, which might be only one version of the item, or you went without.   

So..., perhaps sometimes the question should be asked..., was the predominant design of anything the "best" out there, OR was it simply the one most produced, and thus being the most available did it default into the position of "most common"? 

LD

"find" - absolutely!  as in the all-encompassing "acquire", of which there are many, many forms - some fairly nefarious.

[jmforge]

The advantage of the Japanese laminated katana was it was not prone to breakage as were the earlier, homogeneous steel swords.  A real katana built by a skilled master is immensely expensive.  Even a fine katana built by hand is as expensive as having a decent flinter built.

Actually, the advantage is that you could have a tough blade that could also have a harder edge. The good news/bad news is that those swords would bend and take a set and the edge will chip. The reason that the ashi comes almost all the way to the edge is to prevent length wise propagation of cracks if you chip the edge. As for them being superior to the "homogeneous" blades made the Indian, Persian and Arab smiths, or some blades made by the Europeans, that is a topic for debate. Pretty much ALL quality swords were extremely expensive. As for the cost of a traditionally made sword using "homemade' steel, Dragonfly Forge here in the US charges between $16 and 20K for a polished blade and even the ones made in China in the "traditional" manner can easily exceed $5000.

[jmforge]

Custom knife maker of sorts. 

"Real" damascus steel aka wootz, is a homogenous crucible steel that gets its pattern from a network of carbide dendrites, not from layering. It tends be VERY high carbon steel an it very tricky and SLOW to forge. Steel that is forged from multiple layers is pattern welded steel. Both are "etched' in some manner to show the pattern. 3 layer laminated blades are what the Japanese call "san mai". The Japanese bloomery steel is called tamahagane. The reason that you folded and forge welded is to purify it as it comes out of the bloomery furnace as a spongy looking mass with lots of impurities. Japanese swords are made from pieces of that "cleaned up steel" of varying carbon content. The more complex and expensive the sword,the more pieces were forged welded together. the surviving blades made in the late 13th and early 14ht Century by Goru Masamune, considered to be the greatest Japanese swordsmith ever, are made up of 7 separate small bars of steel of 3 different carbon contents. The simplest of Japanese nihonto are made from 2 pieces of steel, not 3. The hard steel is on the outside. It is forged to a shape kind of like a hot dog bun and the "hot dog" of lower carbon steel is inserted into teh "bun" and the whole thing is forged welded together. Older European blades wee pattern welded from multiple pieces of steel and iron. In the case of the Vikings, Franks and others, steel was rare and expensive, so it was used for the edge and the body was lower carbon iron.  At some point, smiths figured out that they could also make pretty patterns. All of those steels are still made today, although the techniques for smelting wootz were only recently rediscovered, like in the last 30 years.

Thanks for that info jmforge. 
Just a guess on my part,.... but your name leads me to think "maybe you're a blacksmith"?

[AxelP]

When I am out in the woods in historical gear, I carry two knives. one in my belt, a medium sized french boucheron, and a small folder in my pouch. The knife I would miss the most is the small folder.

When I am out in the woods in modern gear I carry one knife-- yep the small folder.

I have read where soldiers often start out with all kinds of gear including big knives... but after weeks of marching, the useless bulky stuff is often thrown away. Which knife is more likely to be discarded? The big one or the small folder?

K

[Loyalist Dave]

AH but soldiers are different from civilians, in that nobody is going to give the civilian extra duty for not have an issued piece of gear, while the soldier is carrying equipment that belongs either to Congress, The State, or if on the other side, The King.     The "long knives" which gave Colonial Riflemen the nic-name were combat tools, as was a good sized tomahawk.  Probably carried when other items were discarded, just as they were in the 20th century.   Hunters are also documented as dispatching wounded bears with large butcher knives.  (See Forty-Four Years in The Life of a Hunter by Meshach Browning).  I think there is a better chance of a hunter having a long knife than for the hunter to be carrying a medium sized kettle. 

LD 

[Uncle Russ]

I think there is a better chance of a hunter having a long knife than for the hunter to be carrying a medium sized kettle. 

Now there is a observation that I can agree with whole heartily.

Interesting thread, you guys keep "layin-it-on", reading is the one pleasure that seems unaffected by health and old age.



Uncle Russ..   

[Loyalist Dave]

AND I ADMIT...., I also know that Joseph Plumb Martin wrote about how much he hated the camp kettle he and his messmates lugged about from time to time until somebody arranged to lose it. 
   AND I also remember hiking in the woods in Virginia during a full equipment exercise when in the Corps, and the first rainy/foggy night you could hear the soft but continuous sounds of items of unneeded gear being tossed into the woods.  Funny how after 20 miles an infantryman becomes a pretty good judge of what is needed, and what is not. 

LD

[AxelP]

True. it depends on who, when and where.
The Soldier, Militia, Scout, Hunter, Fur Trapper, Camp Helper, Farmer, Settler, Townsmen would have different reasons for carrying different size blades--not always based on practicality--sometimes vanity and what was "cool" took precedence--just like today.

From practical experience, there is very little my small folder cannot do. I don't use a blade for chopping wood, thats silly-- have an ax for that job. My folder processes the game I shoot as good or better than my larger knife. The only significant thing my smaller knife does not do as well as a big knife would be "fight." But since I have a belt axe, and a nice set of mocs for running... How many of the old dead guys were truly skilled at fighting with a knife?

I'd say that what was really carried was incredibly varied.

[Winter Hawk]

A number of years back there was a big ruckus up North because a hunter came out of the woods of Admiralty Island, badly beat up, claiming he had fought off and killed a brown bear using a Buck lockblade folder.  It seems he had a deer down and was field dressing it when the bear decided it was his lunch.  The "experts" said the guy must have shot the bear first; Fish & Game found the carcass and did an autopsy, found only stab wounds, no guns shots. 

The point is that a folding knife did the job, marginally.  A butcher knife might have saved the hunter a lot of trauma!  Or not.  You use what you have on hand in those situations.

~WH~

[rollingb]

Getting back to the original question regarding "What knives were really carried?",.... I thought an invoice list of trade goods going west to the 1831 fur trappers rendezvous might be of interest.
I'm sure many fur trappers replaced their personal knives that were either, lost, stolen, broken, and etc., from the traders offering such items at rendezvous.

I hope you find the following as interesting as I do.

The Manifest of Jedediah Smith's Trade Goods.
The following is a partial list of the 1831 chests of goods that arrived,...

Chest No. 1

1 dozen small saws
8 large saws
2 dozen chisels
2 gross small augers
6 dozen panes of window glass
2 dozen scutcheons
2 dozen brass nails for curtains
10 gross small screws
6 packages iron tacks
2 dozen pen knives
1 dozen pocket razors
3 dozen pen knives
3 dozen pocket knives
1 dozen shaving razors
3 dozen shaving razors
2 dozen butcher knives
4 dozen table knives
7 dozen table knives
3 dozen butcher knives
4 dozen butcher knives
3 dozen butcher knives
2 dozen green razor handles
3 dozen white razor handles
2 dozen pocket razors
2 gross thimbles
2,000 needles
130 large needles
1 dozen scissors
3 3/4 dozen scissors
2 gross small spoons
7 small augers
8 large augers
3 dozen bone buttons
4 gross marble buttons
2 gross glass buttons
1 gross shell buttons
1 gross coat buttons
2 gross waistcoat buttons
1 dozen small files
1 dozen large files
1 dozen large files, half hollowed
1 dozen rasps
3 dozen large scutcheons
3 dozens small scutcheons

Chest No. 2:

2 dozen small saws
1 dozen large chisels
1 dozen small chisels
2 gross small augers
2 dozen brass nails, 6 inches
1 dozen brass nails, 3 inches
1/2 dozen brass nails, 3 1/2 inches
1 dozen carbine keys
8 gross small screws
2 packages iron tacks
4 packages iron tacks
1 dozen table knives
14 dozen butcher knives
12 dozen pocket razors
6 dozen knives and forks
4 dozen pen knives
2 gross thimbles
2 1/2 thousand needles
12 thousand large needles
1 dozen scissors
4 gross small spoons
1/2 gross table spoons
20 large augers
3 dozen bone buttons
5 gross marble buttons
2 dozen glass buttons
1 dozen shell buttons
1 dozen shell buttons for shirt
1 dozen yellow buttons
1 dozen common buttons
1 dozen buttons for waistcoat
1 dozen small files
2 dozen large files
1 dozen rasps, half hollowed
6 dozen large scutcheons
4 dozen trunk scutcheons

Invoice of merchandise shipped on board S.B. Diana C.M. Halstead Master bound for the upper Missouri River and consigned for account and risk of upper Missouri outfit 1835 under mark in the margin

Here is a partial list of trade goods that arrived in 1835,......

30 pr 3pt Scarlet blankets
30 pr 3pt green blankets
58 pr 3pt white blankets
93 pr 3pt white blankets
30 pr 3 1/2pt Com. white blankets
46 pr 2 1/2pt best white blankets
40 pr 2 1/2pt best white blankets
64 pr blankets
1 wrapper
15 1 1/2 PB blankets
5 1 PB blanket
1 ps white flannel
4 table covers blue
4 ps salempin [?]
2 ps black silk hankerchiefs
2 ps cotton flag hankerchiefs
20 ribbons assorted colors
1 blue frock coat
5 green of olive coat
40 scarlet chiefs coats
50 Red flannel shirts
1/2 doz.  Ladies Moroco heel pumps
1/2 doz.  Ladies Walking Shoes
12 pr mens Kip Brogans
12 pr mens thick Brogans
2 dz fine Ivory Combs
1 dz. dressing combs
48 Crambo Combs
24 Crambo Combs
19 1/2 @ Sturgeon Twine
3 bundles Fish Lines
1 dz.  Ladies Cotton Stockings
3 setts Silver Gorgets
32 setts large Wampum moons
18 setts large Wampum moons
1 ream (first ?) Lined fools cap paper
1 ream plane fools cap paper
8 blank books
9 1 1/2 Quire blank books
2/12 dz. red ink powder
5/12 dz. sealing wax
1/2 M white chapel needles
12 dz bright oval fire steels
1 dz boxes oval fire steels
1/2 dz. best pad locks
2 dz assorted Gimblets
4 dz beaver trap chains
1 dz Flat Bastard files 14"
2 dz Flat Bastard files 12"
1 dz. 1/2 round bastard files 10"
1 dz. 1/2 round bastard files 14"
1 dz. 1/2 round bastard files 8"
2 dz. Flat bastard files 10"
3 dz. Flat bastard files 8"
9 dz. Flat bastard files 6 & 7"
10 dz. Pitsaw files
1 dz. rat tail files 7"
1 dz. rat tail files 5 1/2"
1 dz Wood Rasps Files 10"
50 dz.  Wilson Butcher Knives #2634
50 dz.  Wilson Butcher Knives 7 in.
47 Gro orange coat buttons
54 Gro finger rings
10 Gro Indian Awls
415 lb. Chalk white pound beads
50 lb. Brass wire No. 6
50 lb. Iron wire No. 15
60 Battle Axes
3 cases of Vermillion
92 @ Verdegris
20 lb. open brass kettles
10 nests sheet Iron kettles
5 1/4 dz. cover tin kettles
6 dz covered tin kettles
4 boxes Y.H. tea
5 loaves ( ? ) sugar
2 bags shot
50 powder horns
20 brass mounted swords
2 boxes shaving soap
4 boxes com soap
1 barrel rice
1 coil manillia rope
4 bales oakum
2 barrels water crackers
2 barrels each navy  pilot bread
1/2 barrels molasses Keg 50 15 gls
5 dz. wooden bowls 16 each bowl
4 lbs. (spelter?) solder
2 bags shot
1 hlf barrel mackreal
? bottle pepper sauce
2 boxes rasins
2 boxes cod fish
2 dz thimbles box 25
1 dz ( ? ) plates
1 large blue cup & saucer 2 setts
1 Lexington mustard
2 lb refined borax
1/2 dz. lime juice
2 oz nut megs
2 oz cloves
1/4 oz. ( ? )
1/2 dz. ground ginger
1 gal blue grass seed
2 dz sudlitz powders
4 dz Lucifer matches
boxes --
7 kegs 6 twist to pound tobacco
2 kegs 2 twist to pound tobacco
1 keg 1 twist to pound tobacco
5 kegs 8 twist to pound tobacco
7 boxes brown havana sugar
2 faggots 13 bars rolld iron
18 bars assorted iron
5 sacks Grod Al Salt
1 barrel rosin
3 kegs pitch
1 box cavandish tobacco
10 barrel pork
6 bags coffee
1 barrel bacon hams
1 book for mens acct.
40 barrels flour
11 bales cloth
3 boxes at 100 and 6 box at 50
4 boxes at 25
2 boxes from Andrew & Burd
2 casks from Andrew & Burd
3 casks from Andrew & Burd

Invoice of Sundry Merchandise from the Rocky Mountain Outfit 1836
under charge of Fontenelle, Fitzpatrick, & Co.

31   Pair   3 Point Scarlet Blanket
31       3 " Green Do.
4       3 " Light Blue "
120       3 " White "
12       2 1/2 "
2       2 1/2 "
42       2 1/2 "
25       1 1/2 "
25       1 "
1   ps   Fancy List Blue Cloth Sapen
1       " " " " "
16       Savd List Blue Cloth
3       Grey " " "
3       Black " Scarlet "
1       Savd. " " "
3       " " " "
1       " " " "
3       " " Green "
3       Red Molton
2       Cadet max Sattinette
1       Blue " "
1       Check
1       Scarlet Flannel
1       " "
1       Yellow "
1       White "
1       Domestic Stripe
2       " "
1       Salampon
2       Blue Mowmac Calico
2       White Ground "
3       Red " "
1       4/4 Yellow "
6       Fancy "
4       Watules Shawls
4   ps   6/4 Cotton " 40 shawls
2   "   " 21 shawls
2   "   " 25 shawls
2   "   Blk Silk Handkffs
3   "   "
1   ps   Black Silk Handkff
2   "   India "
1   "   Pongie " "
1       Canton Flag "
2   "   Dunagen
2   "   Cotton "
4   "   Turkey Red "
1   "   Burlap 100 yds
12       County woolen socks
2   lbs   White Cotton Thread
3   "   " Stitching "
2   "   dark blue "
1   "   Red "
12   "   all col'd "
20       Cloth Capots Blue & Grey
57       Blanket " Col'd
6       " White " "
3       " " "
58   prs   Sattinet Pantaloons
12   "   " "
10   "   linsey "
22   "   Corderoy "
8   "   Fusteau "
10   "   Mix Cloth "
3   "   dark Sattinet "
20   "   Cadet " Mix'd
4   "   Brown Capemeu "
7   "   Steel mix "
12   "   dark blue " 19pr pant
6   "   Supr Blue Cloth
35   "   assrt Sattinet
12       Steam loom Cotton Shirt
236       Red flannel shirts
157       Calico "
81       Domestic Plaid "
129       Check "
7       Pink "
7/12   dz   Round White wool hats
1 1/2   "   " Black " "
2   "   " " " "
2   "   " White " "
1 1/2   dz   Red Cock Feathers
1   "   " Wool Caps
1       7 quire ledger
1       6 " Do.
6       1 " Blank Books
1/4   ream   Rul'd Cap Paper
1/4   "   Plain "
5 1/2       Quires letter "
1/2   @   Quills
2   dz   Buck handle Knives large
12   dz   Green bone "
100   dz   Scalping " " normal
50   dz   cast steel Butcher Knife
2 1/6   "   Shop Scissors
1   "   Women's "
1   set   Each Mortice & Fromer chipits
4   #   Fish Hooks
1 1/3   dz   " Lines
5/12   "   Fire Steel Boxes
2   Gro   Gun Worms
4 11/12   dz   fire steels
10   Gro   Indian awls
7   dz   Handsaw files fine
1 1/3   "   Small bastard "
4   "   7 in " flat
1/3   "   9 " " "
2 1/4   "   Pitsan
11/12   "   10 in Polishing
1/3   "   Each 9 and 10 In Half Round files
1/2   "   Rattail Files
5/12   "   7 in flat Rasps
1 11/12   "   Wood Do.
10   Gro   Finger Rings
2   "   Wood Screws
1   Quire   Sand Paper
6       Screw Augers 28
160   dz   dark Blue Cut Glass beads
50   "   White "
24   "   Brown "
13   "   Amber " 87 doz cut glass beads
10   "   Light blue "
40      Yellow "
60   "   Green " 110dos do. do.
125   Bunches   Blue Snake Beads
75   "   Amber & green " " 200 snake beads
25   "   Mock Garnets
60   "   Seed Beads assorted
127   @   White pound
50   "   Blue "
50   "   Black "
30   Bunches   White Barley Corn
24   "   " Agate Beads
24   "   Blue " "
2   m   Gun Flints
1/2   "   Rifle "
43   @   Rope
2   dz   Gun locks
1/2   "   Rifle "
24   dz   Paper covd Looking Glasses
1   pair   Match planes
1       Each for 162 Jack 100 and Smoothing Plane 100
1 3/4   dz   Green Goggles
100   papers   Hawk Bells
2   pair   Salters
7 1/2   dz   Snaffle Bridles
9   "   Curb "
100   pr.   Stirrup Leather
200       Leather Sursingles
1   dz   martingales
3   Cards   Spurs
12   dz   Chinese Combs Boxes
6   "   Crambo "
4   "   Ivory "
12       dragon Swords
4   pairs   Pistols Iron
2       Am Rifle
7       "
8       Hawkin "
84       N. W. Guns
3 1/6   dz   Small Am Axes
150       Half Axes
50       Round Head Tomahawks
10       American Felling Axes
152   pair   Mule and horse shoes
74   @   Nails for the above shoes
16   dz   Lucifer Matches
5   @   Crude Borax 28lb Cochineal
1   Gallon   Copal Varnish ?
8       Leather lodges
20       Powder bags
3   setts   Wampum moons
15   nests   sheet iron kettles
5   "   Cov'd tin do.
12   dz   Tin Pans
2   bags   Shot
12   kegs   Small Bar lead
32   cannisters   Powder F
15   "   " .456F
12   half bbls.   " .600F Dupont
89 2/3   @   Vermillion
41   "   Cavandish Tobacco
50   Boxes   Blk Pepper
16       Y. H. Tea
6   Bushels   Dried Apples
1   Barrel   Peaches
4   "   Flour
2       Rice
6   Bags   Coffee
8   Boxes   Rasins
12       Bro Hava Sugar
3       White Havana Sugar
35       Calico Shirts
64       Red Flannel "
36   Sets   mule Harness
30       N. W. Guns
5   Bales   Cloth Cords
16       Boxes 100 13 boxes .75
9       Gun Cases
3       Casks .25 and 2 Bags .25
        Drayage
4       Quire Blank Books
6       Bank Books
1/2   @   Quills
1/10   Ream   Rild Foolscap paper
1/2   Quire   Folio pad
2       Rifles Hawkin
1   Coil   Bed Cords
25       Calico Shirts
10   Boxes   Percussion Caps
7       Masonic Swords
4   @   Red Thread
6   "   Stitching Thread
1/2   dz   Gun & Rifle locks
7       metal framed Looking Glasses
8500       White Wampum
5450   gross   Blk "
40       Wampum Hairpipes
2   Setts   " wampum moons
9       India Rubber Canteens
6       Pocket Compass
4   Gro   Brass Finger Rings
13       skins silk
4   papers   Polishd Horse Bells
2   Cards   Spurs
3   prs   4 pt. Com. Blankets
1   "   Red Striped
15   Bunches   Ea. Blue White Agate Beads
32   "   White Barley Corn
80       Powder Horns
2   Barrels   Water Crackers
2       Rifles Hawkens
28       Iron Bound Canteen
520   Galls   Alcohol
1       waggon complete
19   boxes   Tobacco
1   keg   "

Invoice of Sundry Merchandise furnished Rocky Mountain Outfit 1837 under charge of Fontenelle, Fitzpatrick & Co.

......, and a partial list of the goods that went west in 1837

 "        30           Blue Blanket Capots                  8.00                                240.00
  "        41           Green Blanket Capots                $7.00                 $287.000
  "         6    dz     Woolen Half Hose                    $3.25                  $19.500
  "         2    dz     Black wool hats                     $7.50                  $15.000
  "         1 1/4dz     White wool hats                     $9.00                  $11.250
  "         1    ps     Scarlet Melton[?]                 60/8       3   8
  "         1    "      White   "                         54/6       2  14    6
  "         2    "      Cotton Check   73  3/4 yds          $0.15                  $11.060
  "        50    papers Hawk Bells                         $0.375                  $18.750
  "         7    doz    Crambo Combs                        $0.56                   $3.920
  "         3    doz    Crambo Combs                        $0.25                   $0.750
  "         2           Fine Ivory Tooth Combs              $1.25                   $2.500
  "        10           Paper Covered Looking Glass         $0.25                   $2.500
  "        10    lb     all Colours Thread                2/2        1   1    8
  "       100    "      White Pound Beads                   $0.35                  $35.000
  "        25    "      Blue Pound Beads                    $0.35                   $8.750
  "        25    "      Black Pound Beads                   $0.30                   $7.500
  "        15    "      Assorted Colors Pound Beads         $0.30                   $4.500
  "        11 1/2"      Carnelian fine Beads                $1.00                  $11.500
  "       100    doz    Snake Beads 3/4  60 blue green 40   $0.20                  $20.000
  "       190    doz    assorted color cut glass beads      $0.25                  $47.500
  "        10    BunchesMock Garnets                        $0.60                   $6.000
  "        48    "      Sead Beads                          $0.25                  $12.000
  "         5    Gro.   Indian Awls                       3/3           16    3
  "         2    "      Gun Worms                         1/11           3   10
  "         3    "      Orange Coat Buttons                $1.625                   $4.880
  "         2    doz    Shop Scissors                       $2.00                   $4.000
  "         1    doz    Woman's Scissors                    $1.75                   $1.750
  "        84    doz    W. Scalping Knives                4/10      20   6
  "        17    doz    Wilson's Butcher Knives           3/10       3   5    2
  "        10    doz    W. Cartouche knives               3/2        1  11    8
  "         6    doz    W. Cartouche knives                $1.375                   $8.250
  "         6    doz    Green Bone hand'l knives          5/7        1  13    6
  "         1    doz    Handsaw Files                       $1.06                   $1.060
  "         1    doz    Cross Cut Saw Files                 $1.13                   $1.130
  "         1    doz    8 in half round files               $1.50                   $1.500
  "         1    doz    6 in flat files                     $1.13                   $1.130
  "           1/2doz    12 in half round files              $3.50                   $1.750
  "         2    m      Gun Flints                        8/4           16    8
  "         3    m      Rifle Flints                      8/         1   4
  "           1/2doz    Goggles                             $7.00                   $3.500
  "       400           Fish Hooks                          $0.50                   $2.000
  "         3           Bundles Lines   

[amm1851]

Thanks for posting those lists. I made reference to those a couple of pages ago (not that I haven't been enjoying the discussion). 

[Roaddog]

The lists tell it all.That was a real eyeopener and I thak you Roiiingb.

[Winter Hawk]

The lists tell it all.That was a real eyeopener and I thank you Rollingb.

 

~WH~

[waksupi]

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These are some early style knives I make. There are a couple more modern styles in here, but the pocket knives are of 18-19th century designs.