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Author Topic: Back to making soot and smoke again  (Read 11641 times)

Offline Iktomi

Back to making soot and smoke again
« on: March 19, 2018, 11:34:40 AM »
 Howdy fellas, I haunted these parts some years back, life got in the way, work, elderly parent in failing health, building EBR's etc etc, and so I had to put some things on the back burner. I have been lurking the last few days, and it's been a treat to catch up a bit. Stoking the fever so to speak, LOL. I really want to do another build or 5. I don't want to do a production kit this time, I'd like something a few steps up in quality and also to challenge my skills. Torn between a bigger bore Jaeger and an American longrifle of some sort. Definitely want a flinter.


Currently my only BP gun is a GPR caplock rifle that I built about 10 years ago. For a production kit, I must say it's a damn good shooter, with the open sights I can consistently group 2 1/2" @ 100 yards offhand, which is as good as I can shoot ANYTHING with open sights. I killed a couple hogs with it, and a cow elk in Nevada a few years back. My pet load is 105 gr. of Goex FF, .530 Hornady ball and ticking patch with my own crisco/beeswax./olive oil lube. I found a good general plinking load using 75 grains of Graf FFF with the same ball/patch combo.  I've shot the snot out of it over the last decade, and I think I'd like to strip it down and give it a thorough refinishing.



 ETA, not sure why my picture isn't displaying. I'm pretty rusty at this interwebs forum bidness I guess.
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Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2018, 09:41:41 PM »
If you click "Copy" on the following when on Imgur

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it should display your picture.  :bl th up
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Offline Iktomi

Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2018, 12:14:44 AM »
If you click "Copy" on the following when on Imgur

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it should display your picture.  :bl th up

 By golly that works. Thanks! 
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Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2018, 01:20:19 AM »
That's a nice lookin' GPR.  :hairy

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Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2018, 02:29:30 AM »
That's a nice lookin' GPR.  :hairy

Yep, it do be that!
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Glad ya found us Iktomi, looking forward to your posts, so pull up a stump and make yerself at home.
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Offline Iktomi

Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2018, 08:13:40 AM »
That's a nice lookin' GPR.  :hairy

Thanks. For a mass produced factory kit, there sure isn't a single thing wrong with the way they shoot.
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Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2018, 08:35:05 AM »
That's a nice lookin' GPR.  :hairy

Thanks. For a mass produced factory kit, there sure isn't a single thing wrong with the way they shoot.

They are quite the rifle for sure.  :hairy
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Offline Eric Krewson

Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2018, 09:33:12 AM »
A Kibler Lancaster kit would be a step up from a Lyman but not near as hard as a Chambers or Track kit.

I am finishing up a Kibler southern rifle kit, I found it easy compared to a plank build but you still have to do a bit of fitting. The inlets are very close but are slightly undersized to give you room for a tight fit. The metal is as cast and needs a good bit of cleaning up. Everything is tapped and threaded, even the pin holes are drilled through the stock but not the metal lugs.

Offline Iktomi

Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2018, 09:57:44 AM »
Well well, looky who's here. Didn't know you were in to smokepoles as well as bonearras  :wave

 I'm not neccessarily looking for "easy", I'm pretty handy, and I'm comfortable with metal work. Drilling, tapping, and finishing metal isn't a problem for me. The Lyman kit was mostly assembly, no challenge whatsoever. I did take my time getting a good level of finish to it though. I'll have a look at the Kibler guns. I'm definitely more drawn to southern/poor boy guns, the plain workman style suits my personal aesthetic, much like the bows I make for myself. Very well made and great shooters, but no frills no bling.

 
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Offline Hylander

Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2018, 01:58:44 AM »
That is a Great looking GPR  :hairy

Offline Mule Brain

Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2018, 12:37:55 AM »
Hard to beat a GPR, very well made guns
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Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2018, 02:14:19 AM »
Hard to beat a GPR, very well made guns
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Offline Eric Krewson

Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2018, 09:58:46 AM »
Here is a Kibler with a little added bling, I just finished it.



 

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Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2018, 10:56:30 AM »
That's a fine lookin' rifle Eric, I've heard of those kits but haven't taken the plunge yet.  :hairy :applaud

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Re: Back to making soot and smoke again
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2018, 10:37:32 PM »
That's a lovely piece there.  Good job on the build!  :toast

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