SCOTS in the FUR TRADE

[Puffer]

Lately some of us have been discussing "Scots) & I thought that this might be fun & informative.
Scots were VERY involved in the Fur Trade as well as exploration of this cont.
here are 2 sites to look @. (the 1st is more "extensive than the 2nd.) http://www.electricscotland.com/history ... appers.htm
http://www.visitdunkeld.com/scottish-trivia-250.htm

Now another thing to concider, are you a "Highlander" or "Lowlander" ??
here is a site that may help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_clan

I do wear the kilt & the tartan, (even though I am a "Lowlander"{Black Douglas}, but by my time it was "acceptable for "lowlanders to do so)

Have fun

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[tg]

Very good info I was able to trace the Loban side  of the family back to the highlands, an ex-wife had all this om paper at one time and burned it when we parted company. Thanks for posting it.

[Puffer]

Very good info I was able to trace the Loban side  of the family back to the highlands, an ex-wife had all this om paper at one time and burned it when we parted company. Thanks for posting it.

 

Sept of the MacLennans

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[jasontn]

thanks for the info puffer. i am planning on using the research my sister did on our family to help build my persona and this is the time fram, early side of it, i want it to be in.

[Firewalker]

Thanks for the links Puffer. Very informative. I learned a lot I didn't know before.

[Puffer]

Thanks for the links Puffer. Very informative. I learned a lot I didn't know before.

Were on the "map" did your "people call home ??

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[Firewalker]

Family name was Sharp from Dundee.
Unfotunately, by the time I was old enough to be interested in the family roots the Great Grans were gone for the most part, and my grandmother was only interested in being "American". Lots of shirt tail relatives my folks lost track of.

[Minnesota Mike]

Know that kilts get worn for our rendezvous meets of today - but how often were kilts really worn back in the day?

Have not come across much written to indicate that kilts were part of the fur trade attire as it were.

Of course - have no been looking either.

Great book on this topic called "Twa Tribes Scots Among the Native Americans : Scots Among the Native Americans Hugo Reid, Alexander Ross, and Charles McKenzie" by Tom Bryan.

Book Description
Many Scots were involved in the European exploration and settlement of North America and began new lives as settlers, explorers, trappers and missionaries. Some even adapted to Indian ways so readily that they became tribal leaders. Twa Tribes is the story of three Scots who went against the attitudes and prejudices of the day, assumed the language and culture of the tribes they encountered and even married into them. These were pioneering individuals with a respect for the land and its people, and this is a vivid record of their experiences and their achievements.

Synopsis
This is an enlightening account of three pioneering Scots and the special relationships they had with the native people of North America. Hugo Reid, Alexander Ross and Charles McKenzie fought against the attitudes of prejudice of their day and assumed the language and culture of the tribes they encountered and married into. This is the fascinating story of their experiences and achievements in a land far away from their Scottish birthplace.

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[RDavidP]

Thanks for the information.  I am a MacLeod myself and involved in the MacLeod Clan society.

[Puffer]

Here is something that might interest you.
On the cover of "Scottish Firearms" by Claude Blair & Robert Woosnam-Savage  ( Historical Arms series) is a Scots steel pistol owned by William McGillivray, a Chief Director of the NWC
1. It is the "classic" scroll but steel pistol. Made by Jn. Murdoch of Doune
2 It is heavily engraved. On the right grip, it has the NWC Crest & the initials WM. On the left grip,the NWC Arms[albumimg:36tetzsk]2710[/albumimg:36tetzsk]

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[Minnesota Mike]

Cool.

Does anyone sell pistols like that?

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MM

[Puffer]

Cool.

Does anyone sell pistols like that?

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MM

YEP.
 A. you can buy an inexpensive one fron Middlesex Vill. ( unengraved) & the find an egraver to engrave it

B. Or you can order the parts from here http://www.therifleshoppe.com/(532).htm NOTE- the hammer is different (an earlier style) but what the heck.  :lt th  

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[Spotted Bull]

On my Mother's side I am a Nesbit from the Lowlands northern coast.  I was able to trace her side two generations back into Scotland.  I believe that there is a Nesbitt house still standing there, though not owned by a Nesbitt at this time.

[KHickam]

So, what happens if 1/2 your family is Ulster-Scots and the other 1/4 are Highlanders with the other 1/4 being Lowland Scots.  That was before coming to  America obviously.

There are Lucky's, Copelands, Croslands. Wipples, McGregors, Polks, Watson's, Grahams, as well as shirt tail Boones.  All strung together in my family tree -

But, my main line (Patriachial) and surname are Ulster-Scots.  Hickam

But, now tying it to the discussion - I am busy researching a persona of an Irish-Scot trader/trapper working for Manuel Lisa at Ft Manuel in 1812-13.

[Minnesota Mike]

Cool.

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