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Author Topic: Fire and Iron  (Read 1257 times)

Offline sse

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Re: Fire and Iron
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2016, 07:37:17 PM »
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I am pleased to see the topic of traditional muzzleloaders covered on prime time TV.

However, these so-called "reality" shows, including fire and iron, have become formulaic. There is the star of the show (Daniel Casey; Rick Harrison on Pawn Stars; etc.). Then there is the fall guy, side kick, comic relief, usually a goofy fellow (Bob Thatcher on Fire and Iron; Chumlee on Pawn Stars). Then there are assorted others in the background.

So far, the amount of coverage on the actual building of a long rifle would barely fill up one episode of the show. So much is filler - banter with the hangers-on, building a house addition.
Maybe the combination of The Revenant and Fire and Ice will stimulate some interest in our activity. That would be great. But I just don't have the desire to spend an hour watching 5 minutes of rifle building and shooting and 35 minutes of family and friend interaction and 20 minutes of advertisements.

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Re: Fire and Iron
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2016, 05:22:03 PM »
I've watched every episode of Iron and Fire and I agree there is very little about actually building a firearm.  There were also a few things that made me cringe.  Casey builds a flintlock for a customer and when he test fires it the frizzen flies forward when struck by the hammer but then bounces back to smack the flint a second time and comes to rest on it.  That lock is far from being tuned.  I really hope he didn't ship the gun to the customer like that or somebody is going to be wondering why the gun gets such short flint life.  In another scene he dry fires a supposedly original percussion rifle.  No snap cap.  Bare nipple.  Casey claims to have been taught by Herschel House.  He should know better.  Then there is the rifle that is brought to him still loaded.  It appears to be a TC Hawken and has supposedly been sitting in a closet for years in that condition.  After stating that removing the ball and charge from this gun is dangerous, he locks the rifle horizontal in a vise, runs a ball pulling jag down, screws it into the ball, and stands in front of the muzzle while tugging on the rod.  Then he recruits one of his relatives to hold the rifle and pull one direction while he pulls in the other, still standing in front of the muzzle.  They get the ball out.  Then he tries to unbreach the rifle and can't turn the breech plug.  He says it is welded in place by rust and is therefore dangerous to shoot.  He stresses that the owner will be told to not fire it.  Then he and his merry men take it out to "test fire" it.  I'm okay with that but expected the gun to be secured in a restraining device and fired by a long cord attached to the trigger and led back to cover.  When I see him holding the rifle to his shoulder and firing I had to shake my head.  Then he let his relatives/friends shoot it.  Dangerous?  Don't do what we just did?

Anyway, I'll continue to watch the program.  Hopefully, they will start to catch some of the errors and dangerous practices.

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Re: Fire and Iron
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2016, 09:41:08 AM »
Its great to know that some form of muzzleloading is on tv. But I am happy to say I have not seen any of this or any other unreality on reality tv. I quit watching any tv several yrs ago when so many of these reality show started coming on. If you will just think for a second there is none of that crap even remotely real. But its there for entertainment an thats fine if you want to watch it. I still have a tv an watch dvds though not often. I do take the money that went for the satalite every month an put that in new flintlock funds an you would be amazed how fast it stacks up for a new rifle or smoothbore. Mike Brooks got my tv/satalite money back a few months ago. Now let me add that I am single an my daughter is grown but if I still had other people in the household I would of course just about have to have tv for their sake but for a single old man that is set in his grumpy ways they can keep their reality to themselfs
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Re: Fire and Iron
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2016, 01:29:30 PM »
Yeah, I don't have cable or satellite out where I live so don't get to see the Iron and Fire show but my buddy at work tells me about it.  I'd like to see it just because of the subject matter, whether it's good or not so good.
As for shooting a flinter (which is just about all I shoot) y'all are right.  Back in the day we'd go to rendezvous and be out shooting and it was common practice and courtesy to say loudly and plainly "flintlock" just before pulling the trigger so everyone around could turn their heads away!  We didn't need no stinking safety glasses or ear plugs.  Always wear both gents!  The eyes and what's left of the ears are way too important to risk.