TC or GPR

[jimknife]

Question for the more knowledgeable people.  Which would be a better gun a TC Cherokee FL or a GPR Fl and why?  The TC I can get for 250.  I haven't seen the TC he says he thinks it is a Cherokee.

[Bigsmoke]

I don't believe T/C ever made a Cherokee in flint.  So, if it's a flinter, it's either a Hawken, Renegade, PA Hunter or a Firestorm.

On a personal note, I think the T/C is a better quality gun with better finish, especially the older models.

The GPR is no doubt a more historically accurate appearing rifle.

Shooting wise, I think it is more the guy behind the gun than the rifle itself.  They both shoot well.

[BEAVERMAN]

Smoke, didnt they make a Seneca in flint also?

[Bigsmoke]

Beav,
I sure don't recall T/C ever making any of their small frame rifles in flint.  Nor were any Patriot pistols made that way, either.  I imagine someone could have converted one somewhere along the line, but it isn't factory.

[tg]

I would go for the GPR just for the more correct style these guns have when compared to the TC guns.

[BEAVERMAN]

jimknife, if you havnt shouldered both firearms, you may want to check that out before you open the wallet, to me the GPR is way too muzzle heavy, JMHO

[rollingb]

I would go for the GPR just for the more correct style these guns have when compared to the TC guns.

I agree,.... and they ain't no slouch in the "accuracy" department neither.

[Loyalist Dave]

I like the GPR in flint over the TC.  I don't like the TC lock in their flinter very much.  

LD

[Three Hawks]

I've owned and shot both a Lyman GPR flinter and a T-C Hawken flinter, and to me the locks are so  similar as to be identical.  Like many if not most flintlocks, they have preferences as to what kind of flint they prefer and how they like it clamped in the jaws of the cock.    I prefer my T-C Hawken, but that's just me and the shape of the stock, both rifles are good, dependable arms.  As to fit and finish, both  are fine in the rifles I have.

As to historical accuracy, The Museum Of The Fur Trade in Chadron, NE states that as far as they know there is no extant example of a flintlock Hawken from the Hawken shop, nor is there mention of any in the Hawken records.

Your mileage, as always, may vary.

Three Hawks

[hawkeye]

I have a GPR with an L&R flint lock and I really like the looks of the GPR over the T/C.  Though it's hard to beat the customer service of T/C.

[Uncle Russ]

I have a GPR with an L&R flint lock and I really like the looks of the GPR over the T/C.  Though it's hard to beat the customer service of T/C.

Yep, same here with the GPR and I do own both but, like many others, I feel it's the customer service at T/C that puts them a wee bit ahead of the game.

Personally, I like the weighted forward handling of the GPR, but many don't.
Over the years I have developed the impression that the reason some folks like the weighted forward rifles, while others don't, is all in the shooting stance, and / or the way that particular person feels most comfortable when shooting, or holding the rifle.....

I feel the choice between a T/C and a GPR is a personal choice, and not one of which gives the best performance, although if you want wanted to split some very, very fine hairs, the GPR just might come out on top...but even that is somewhat subjective.

They are both winners, IMHO.

Uncle Russ...

[Mule Brain]

I have never owned a TC, I just never really cared for the looks of them. I know they make a good gun, and it's a good company as well!

I am however a GPR fan, and have both in flint, and cap. I am a big fan of double wedge keys too!

You really can't go wrong either way, it will probably come down to looks more than anything else!

[Gambia]

Beaverman gave good advice,try them both out before you take the plunge.There is a great difference in the way they handle.Its a matter of personal preference but a rifle that doesn't fit you is a real pain no matter how PC or accurate it is.