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Offline Lonewolfe20

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Re: Kilts
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2017, 11:29:30 PM »
Non-bifurcated

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Re: Kilts
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2017, 11:07:06 PM »
What Uncle Russ said.Puffer is the man on Kilts.I do have one and have displayed it a few time.But my Welsh brothers gave me a tongue lashing for wearing a kilt.So me kilt is put away.
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Re: Kilts
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2017, 01:41:47 PM »
Weaver, there ARE non-bifurcated Welsh male garments. Apparently it's "cilt" in Wales. Be careful typing that. Most will argue that the Welsh cilt is a result of the English Victorian "Scottish Revival" in the 19th century, and not a historical Welsh manner of dress. Same might be said of the Irish wearing kilts. Strictly speaking, in Scotland the kilt is a garment of the Highlands. True Highlanders have some special terms that are applied to Lowlanders and English who don kilts. The kilt has become so ubiquitous that tartans have been created for the American centennial, and the US Marines even have a tartan. So some guy named Johannson or Chavez can wear tartan--if he's a Marine. I once ran into a guy at a Highland games who said he was from the Highlands of West Virginia and a member of Clan McRowdy. The dress tartan was blue denim and the hunting tartan was Marine corps camo.

So wear what you darn well please, I reckon. I'm about a quarter Scot, and you won't offend me a bit. Well, unless you start talking Brexit.

Here:  Welsh Kilts Welsh Cilts

And for the historians, this little Wikipedia piece is interesting. There is no documentation for kilts in Scotland before something like 1690. Also, the modern kilt as we know it, was invented by an Englishman. The Scots adopted it after one clan chieftan aparently saw the advantage of the "skirt" being a separate garment. It quickly spread across Scotland. Strictly speaking, all those kilts at "Rennaissance Faires" are a complete fiction, as is virtually all the SCA stuff.

And here:   Kilt - Wikipedia

A little aside concerning the kilt pin. The story goes that Queen Victoria was reviewing troops, including Highland regiments. Apparently it was a windy day, and a kilt or five was lifted. The Queen was shocked. SHOCKED. She ordered that a pin was to be worn on the apron of regimental kilts. The Highlanders were horrified. HORRIFIED. They were proud of the swing of their kilts. A clever Scot determined that they could comply with the order and maintain their tradition by attaching the pin to the apron but NOT pinning it down to the underlying fabric. Love the creative Scots' defiance.
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Re: Kilts
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2017, 02:33:03 PM »
Quote from: "RussB"
Lonewolf, I'm a bit late to the thread, but I thought I would throw this out FWIW.

The GRMM (Green River Mountain Men) a real nice Muzzleloading Organization here in the Pacific Northwest, has many members in their Association that favor the Kilt.

One of them, a Charter Member of the TMA, is Puffer.
Puffer is extremely knowledgeable when it comes to the Kilt. He's seldom, if ever, seen at rendezvous not wearing the Kilt. And, he likes nothing better than a good discussion on the ends and outs of wearing the Kilt.

Puffer has been a bit under the weather here of late, like many of us he's getting a bit long in the tooth, but if he should come across this thread I'm in hopes that he will chime in. The man is a wealth of knowledge.

Uncle Russ...

Anybody see ol' Puffer of late? I used to see him on FB now & then, but not lately. I been wonderin about his health...
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Re: Kilts
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2017, 11:27:36 AM »
I have the patterns but the great kilt calls for 9 yrs 5ft wide of tartan
I think wow that's a lot of wool!

That certainly IS, but I was told that the "belted plaid" aka a "great kilt" was 9 yards on the old style looms, which I was told was then cut in half, then pieced, so you end up with four and a half yards around the body, with five feet coming over your head and down to just above the knees. 

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Re: Kilts
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2017, 01:10:06 AM »
I ain't swappin' my buckskins fer no skirt.  :oops:  <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/00000001.gif" alt=":laffing" title="laffing" />

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Re: Kilts
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2017, 10:10:56 AM »


Anybody see ol' Puffer of late? I used to see him on FB now & then, but not lately. I been wonderin about his health...
[/quote] Have been wondering bout the old boy of late myself
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Re: Kilts
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2017, 12:34:20 PM »
I'd be a might 'skeered' the skeeters would work on the 'boys' a mite!! ::) :o
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