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Author Topic: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock  (Read 7588 times)

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2023, 12:58:01 PM »
My cherry stock is blondish after 4 coats of tru oil. No hint of " cherry"
 I will have her completed by this weekend and I'll post some pics.
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2023, 01:00:04 PM »
My cherry stock is blondish after 4 coats of tru oil. No hint of " cherry"
 I will have her completed by this weekend and I'll post some pics.
Kevin

Cherrywood is s'posed to "cherry" itself over time, and perhaps exposure to sunlight.  I'm going to only Tru-Oil mine, no stain.

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2023, 01:01:34 PM »
My cherry Woody arrived this morning ....

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Look at the waaay bent ramrod!  I always make my own, so no big deal ...

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2023, 01:45:27 PM »
Congrats.
 My RR was outta wack too !  easy fix.
 Looking forward to your build.
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2023, 02:58:47 PM »
 :hairy here I sit broken hearted........., love the color, hope mine is that dark to start with.

Straightening that RR is a simple fix
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2023, 03:12:59 PM »
:hairy here I sit broken hearted........., love the color, hope mine is that dark to start with.

Straightening that RR is a simple fix

Yep, same as straightening a cedar or hickory arrow shaft.  I make most of my own ramrods outta split pignut hickory.

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2023, 09:45:49 AM »
Dear James,

Great news! We have your kit gun ready to ship and you are all paid up.  Would you like me to go ahead and ship it?

DUH!  :applaud :applaud :applaud
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2023, 09:52:02 AM »
Dear James,

Great news! We have your kit gun ready to ship and you are all paid up.  Would you like me to go ahead and ship it?

DUH!  :applaud :applaud :applaud

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2023, 10:42:34 AM »
Yippee, let the fun begin. Be careful with the forend.
 Fra gee le'
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2023, 08:09:30 PM »
My cherry Woody arrived this morning ....

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Look at the waaay bent ramrod!  I always make my own, so no big deal ...

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Rob, that bent ram rod sure wouldn't fall out if you tilted the muzzle down!  That is IF you could get it pushed all the way down to begin with!!!

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2023, 08:27:02 PM »
Yippee, let the fun begin. Be careful with the forend.
 Fra gee le'
Kevin

Yes indeed, Jim's stocks are all of exacting and proper dimensions for their era, and that means THIN forestocks.

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2023, 08:28:44 PM »
My cherry Woody arrived this morning ....

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Look at the waaay bent ramrod!  I always make my own, so no big deal ...

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Rob, that bent ram rod sure wouldn't fall out if you tilted the muzzle down!  That is IF you could get it pushed all the way down to begin with!!!

You ain't kiddin'!!   :luff:   :Doh!   :lol sign

It's a relatively easy fix, specially if yer into building woody arrows.

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2023, 12:35:24 PM »
Maple 100% and get the upgrade. Never seen good cherry that was as nice as good maple. :hairy

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2023, 03:03:40 PM »
Maple 100% and get the upgrade. Never seen good cherry that was as nice as good maple. :hairy

Got the cherry, plain Jane, already have a couple nice curly maple guns, a figured English walnut Haines style known as the prom queen, needed a Cherry to round out the collection, have been sitting on it since mid August, going to start it 1st week of December, take my time, enjoy the process and maybe , just maybe a little basic carving on it, looking for a dark Black Cherry finish, going to have to twist Robs arm a bit to let go of the process he used on that last Maryland rifle he built!
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2023, 03:29:29 PM »
Maple 100% and get the upgrade. Never seen good cherry that was as nice as good maple. :hairy

To be fair, the strongest and best of all wood species will be of the straightest most boring grain.  Flames, tiger stripes and quilts are going to be weaker due to their cross grain "features".  Now the strong grained wood is probably best for a war weapon, and a bling laden tiger stripe wood is best for those civilians who relish the art of the long gun.  To each their own and for me I rate a trad ML thisaway in a prioritized order ...

1. function - fast ignition, accurate with a "loose ball" load, not fussy with 'tween shot cleaning, and just "feels" good
2. form - after all the bling wood guns I've stuck together I must admit a preference for a plain wood gun

Jim - which gun that I finished were your referring to?