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Offline herbwf

Entienne lock
« on: January 23, 2019, 06:22:43 PM »
I have a lock marked Etienne  lock that I have been trying to get details on for quite a while. Is this the right part of the forum to post this request?
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2019, 07:57:14 PM »
Do you figure its an original?  That is/was a town in France known for gunmakers.
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2019, 08:23:45 PM »
Quote from: ridjrunr on January 23, 2019, 07:57:14 PM
Do you figure its an original?  That is/was a town in France known for gunmakers.

herbwf, this forum will do just fine!  :bl th up

ridjrunr, wouldn't that be something if this is an original lock!  :bl th up

I'm a gonna follow this thread as it could be very interesting!  :hairy
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2019, 09:43:12 PM »
Ok, have tried to attach photos, but notice says file is too big. can anyone square me away? Tried 4 photos too large tried 1 photo. Still too large. What next?
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2019, 10:23:21 PM »
Quote from: herbwf on January 23, 2019, 09:43:12 PM
Ok, have tried to attach photos, but notice says file is too big. can anyone square me away? Tried 4 photos too large tried 1 photo. Still too large. What next?

I'm not really up on how to post photo's through the site here. I know it can be done, however I have found that Imgur is very workable and easy to use, and doesn't cost a penny.  :bl th up
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2019, 02:47:18 AM »
Herbwf, Welcome to the forum!,its not how many pix but rather, the size of each individual. You have to resize each one before attaching them. I have some great referance books to look up info on this lock subject. Will check back later this morning, this is my" hit the hay " time.
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Offline herbwf

Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2019, 11:35:02 AM »
going to try this again [ Invalid Attachment ]
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2019, 11:36:15 AM »
OK will post other photos as soon as I figure out how I did this hehehe
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2019, 01:11:29 PM »
The quick take is maybe a 1763 French musket STYLE lock. Lots more pictures needed front and back.
In the book, Colonial Frontier Guns by TM Hamilton, there is a discription with photos and dimensions.
No Etienne stamped on it but they are saying it is identical too a 1763, im assuming a period copy of that design. The article describes a couple other knowns that are also the same.
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2019, 01:21:34 PM »
Quote from: herbwf on January 24, 2019, 11:36:15 AM
OK will post other photos as soon as I figure out how I did this hehehe

Dont feel bad, I just described to you how it may need to be done and I still cant do it :Doh!
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2019, 02:48:12 PM »
Quote from: ridjrunr on January 24, 2019, 01:21:34 PM
Quote from: herbwf on January 24, 2019, 11:36:15 AM
OK will post other photos as soon as I figure out how I did this hehehe

Dont feel bad, I just described to you how it may need to be done and I still cant do it :Doh!

My wife posts my pictures for me.  :) :hairy :laffing
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2019, 05:48:49 PM »
That style of double throated cock seems to me to be of a later era that 1760s. More like 1800 to 1820s? I am far from expert on this.
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2019, 06:09:27 PM »
Quote from: rollingb on January 24, 2019, 02:48:12 PM
Quote from: ridjrunr on January 24, 2019, 01:21:34 PM
Quote from: herbwf on January 24, 2019, 11:36:15 AM
OK will post other photos as soon as I figure out how I did this hehehe

Dont feel bad, I just described to you how it may need to be done and I still cant do it :Doh!

My wife posts my pictures for me.  :) :hairy :laffing

 :Doh! This just ain't right!

Get a "Host", they're free, and they do the postin stuff fer ya!
There are several free hosts on the Internet, but since Photobucket went belly-up I have used www.Imgur.com
There ain't no fleas on Imgur. Easy to set up, easy to use.  If you have it on your computer, Imgur can post on the web for you.

My "test" photo for any web-based photo hosting.
(Pick your own "Test photo" where you can easily recognize colors, clarity, motion, whatever, and never worry about sizing, resizing....it will do all that for you.)


Sorry this is off-topic for the lock in reference, but pictures are essential to help identify anything....words just don't do it sometimes, remember the "Worth a thousand words" saying?
This is truly an interesting lock, let's identify this thing!

Russ...
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2019, 08:35:05 PM »
Quote from: AxelP on January 24, 2019, 05:48:49 PM
That style of double throated cock seems to me to be of a later era that 1760s. More like 1800 to 1820s? I am far from expert on this.

Good eye AxelP.  :bl th up

When I was looking at that picture I did not even notice that detail. I believe the 1803 Harpers Ferry rifles had the double throated cock.

Yes sir Russ,  www.Imgur.com is the way to go!
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Re: Entienne lock
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2019, 03:19:19 AM »
The Charlieville musket had double throat in the 1700's. But I dont know if it had a convex surface or if it was just flat. It does look a bit funky .
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