Welcome to the TMA - the Traditional Muzzleloading Association

The TMA is always free to access: totally non-profit and therefore no nagging for your money, no sponsors means no endless array of ads to wade through, and no "membership fees" ever required. Brought to you by traditional muzzleloaders with decades of wisdom in weaponry, accoutrements, and along with 18th and 19th century history knowledge of those times during the birth our nation, the United States of America.

!!! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO READ AN IMPORTANT TMA MESSAGE !!!

Author Topic: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek  (Read 78 times)

Offline Craig Tx

8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
« on: August 12, 2021, 09:37:45 AM »
On this day in 1840, Gen. Felix Huston, Col. Edward Burleson, and others, including Ben McCulloch, fought a running battle with a large party of Comanche Indians.

The battle of Plum Creek occurred as a result of the Council House Fight, in which a number of Comanche leaders were killed. Chief Buffalo Hump led a retaliatory attack down the Guadalupe valley east and south of Gonzales. The band numbered perhaps as many as 1,000, including the families of the warriors, who followed to make camps and seize plunder. The Comanches swept down the valley, plundering, stealing horses, and killing settlers, and sacked the town of Linnville. The Texans' volunteer army caught up with the Indians on Plum Creek, near present-day Lockhart, on August 11 and soundly defeated them the next day.
Dios y Tejas!
 

TMA # 332
Renew: 17 May 2028

Offline Oldetexian

  • TMA BoD
  • ****
  • Posts: 923
  • Total likes: 4
  • TMA: Virginia State Rep.
  • TMA Member: TMA Supporting Member #831, expiration 4/17/2021
  • Location: Virgina
Re: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2021, 12:13:55 PM »
 :hairy

As always, good stuff...really appreciate your posts!
Virginia State Rep.
TMA BoD



"fiat justitia ruat caelum"
(let justice be done though the heavens fall)

Ray Buchanan

Offline BEAVERMAN

  • TMA Contributing Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 6204
  • Total likes: 545
  • TMA: TMA Vice President
  • TMA Member: Charter Member #145
  • Location: Vaughn, WA
Re: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2021, 01:21:26 PM »
 :hairy Thanks Craig!
Jim Smith
TMA Vice President
Charter Member #145  EXPIRATION 1/21/27
Green River Mountain Men
Peninsula Longrifles
WSMA
U.S.M.C.
BSA                    
Save America. Spay or neuter a liberal today.

"An armed man is a citizen,..an unarmed man is a subject!"

Offline Uncle Russ

  • TMA Contributing Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 7345
  • Total likes: 77
  • TMA Founder. Walk softly & carry a big Smoothbore!
  • TMA Member: Founder / Charter Member #004
  • Location: Columbia Basin, Washington State
Re: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2021, 05:20:12 PM »
Thanks a bunch, Craig    :bl th up

My reading tells me that of all the fighting tribes in the Southwest, including the Apache tribes, which were known for their cruelty, along with the Comancheros, (which was little more than a mixed-bag of misfits and outcasts, from other Indian Nations with a sprinkling of white outlaws.) The Comanche Tribes were the meanest, most cruel, and often the most intelligent "tactically" of all the Tribes our early settlers had to deal with.

And, perhaps as a point of general interest;
Although growing up on the border town of El Paso, TX, it has been the lowly Yaqui tribe that has gained my admiration and respect, more so than any other over the years, while reading their history and trying to put things into perspective, as Muzzleloaders like us sometimes do.
As a youngster, back in the 1940's, I had a few young friends that were of Yaqui descent.
Thinking back, I have to think that maybe myself, and my family, was the ONLY friends these poor boys had back then.
If you're not aware of these people, here is a link from Wikipedia:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaqui

Russ...

It's the many things we don't do that totally sets us apart.
TMA Co-Founder / Charter Member# 4

Online Winter Hawk

Re: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2021, 12:34:42 PM »
Thank you for the link, Russ.  I knew of the Yaqui but nothing in depth.

~Kees~
NMLRA Life
"All you need for happiness is a good gun, a good horse and a good wife." - D. Boone
USN June 1962-Nov. 65, USS Philip, DD-498

Dues paid to 02 Jan. 2027

Offline SharpStick

  • TMA Forum Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 200
  • Total likes: 1
  • TMA: State Represenative, AZ
  • TMA Member: Membership #806 Expires 8/11/2021
  • Location: AZ
Re: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2021, 06:37:44 PM »
Russ,
You're mention of the Yaquis reminded me of my experience with them.  In my high school days in south east Arizona there were a couple boys of Yaqui descent. We'd always heard that the Yaquis were great distance runners.  Later, in the 70's, I was driving school bus while attending Arizona State University.  One of my routes was from Guadalupe AZ to the local Marcos de Niza High School.  As the Wikipedia article mentions, the town of Guadalupe was mostly Yaquis.  We only bussed them a couple miles, but were always glad to get them delivered.  Nothing bad, just a bunch of happy, noisy high schoolers who didn't always want to follow the rules.

Thanks a bunch, Craig    :bl th up

...

And, perhaps as a point of general interest;
Although growing up on the border town of El Paso, TX, it has been the lowly Yaqui tribe that has gained my admiration and respect, more so than any other over the years, while reading their history and trying to put things into perspective, as Muzzleloaders like us sometimes do.
As a youngster, back in the 1940's, I had a few young friends that were of Yaqui descent.
Thinking back, I have to think that maybe myself, and my family, was the ONLY friends these poor boys had back then.
If you're not aware of these people, here is a link from Wikipedia:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaqui

Russ...
The trouble with doing things right the first time is no one realizes how hard it was.
Often, however, the following is more applicable.
I stand corrected, a position somewhat painful to achieve, but once there, is quite satisfying.



Posts starting 6/20/20 - 151
Posts ending  9/20/20 - (?)

Offline Uncle Russ

  • TMA Contributing Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 7345
  • Total likes: 77
  • TMA Founder. Walk softly & carry a big Smoothbore!
  • TMA Member: Founder / Charter Member #004
  • Location: Columbia Basin, Washington State
Re: 8/12/1840: Raiding Comanches soundly defeated at Plum Creek
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2021, 10:19:31 PM »
 :yessir:

They are that, and more!
Still yet,  they rate high on the list of loyal friends.
(Once they have learned they an "trust" you.)

Russ...
It's the many things we don't do that totally sets us apart.
TMA Co-Founder / Charter Member# 4