Welcome to the TMA - the Traditional Muzzleloading Association
The TMA is always free to access: totally non-profit and therefore no nagging for your money, no sponsors means no endless array of ads to wade through, and no "membership fees" ever required. Brought to you by traditional muzzleloaders with decades of wisdom in weaponry, accoutrements, and along with 18th and 19th century history knowledge of those times during the birth our nation, the United States of America.

Author Topic: lead from car/truck batteries  (Read 4336 times)

Offline Sean McKown

lead from car/truck batteries
« on: July 15, 2008, 08:42:54 PM »
Is lead from car batteries safe to use?  I have a customer that recycles batt.  and the im interested in the lead if it can be used for our intended purpose.   any suggestions.
Sean McKown
Nebraska TMA State Representative[/color]
TMA Member #182
exp 04/15/14 Just renewed via paypal
NMLRA

Eastern Platte Muzzleloaders
Pioneer Longrifles

Offline R.M.

(No subject)
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 09:10:07 PM »
Don't even think it.  :x
Bad Mo-Jo
Not worth the consequences from what I understand.
R.M.
 :Canada
TMA Charter Member #134   Exp. 11/14
Join the TMA. For the money, it's the best BOOM for your 15 bucks.

The tree of liberty must be watered periodically with the blood of tyrants and patriots alike..........Thomas Jefferson

Offline Uncle Russ

  • TMA Council
  • ****
  • Posts: 7345
  • Total likes: 77
  • TMA Founder. Walk softly & carry a big Smoothbore!
  • TMA Member: Founder / Charter Member #004
  • Location: Columbia Basin, Washington State
(No subject)
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 10:02:41 PM »
Quote from: "R.M."
Don't even think it.  :x
Bad Mo-Jo
Not worth the consequences from what I understand.

Same what R.M. seez.....bad stuff, and not worth the effort to do it properly.

Uncle Russ...

It's the many things we don't do that totally sets us apart.
TMA Co-Founder / Charter Member# 4

Three Hawks

  • Guest
(No subject)
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 12:42:04 AM »
Battery plates are sintered, not cast and contain liquid inside them.  When the liquid flashes to steam as can happen when a plate is melted it can and does throw molten alloy many feet.  Another problem is the alloy contains cadmium, arsenic, selenium, and some toxic stuff, too.  

In short,  NO !, do not try to salvage battery lead.  

Of course, we are going to hear from the "It's ok, I done it." crowd shortly on.  

And they probably did, just like the guy who cleans his guns without checking to see if they're unloaded.  He'll get away with it, too.  For a while.

They're your eyes, your skin, and your health.   Do what you wish.

Three Hawks

Offline Wyoming Mike

(No subject)
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 08:10:20 AM »
I'll chime in with the same message as the others.  In addition to the reasons given by everyone else, battery lead has a lot of nasty additives to make it do it primary job of holding a charge.  It contains a lot of cadmium and other elements that are not very nice.
Love the smell of black powder in the morning
Smells like fun.

Captchee

  • Guest
(No subject)
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 09:20:48 AM »
can it be done ? yes
should you ? no  not unless you have the right  set up  for recycling  it .
 like others have said there is some pretty nasty things inside batteries  and frankly for the amount of lead you  will get in return , its not worth the hassle or possible consequences ..
 There are a lot of safer places to get lead then  messing with batteries

Offline Sean McKown

(No subject)
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 10:41:36 PM »
Thanks guys!   I heard it was OK from a couple of REAL redneck types, but me being the paranoid sort thought I would ask first..
Sean McKown
Nebraska TMA State Representative[/color]
TMA Member #182
exp 04/15/14 Just renewed via paypal
NMLRA

Eastern Platte Muzzleloaders
Pioneer Longrifles

Offline jbullard1

(No subject)
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2008, 12:48:55 PM »
Quote from: "Sean McKown"
Thanks guys!   I heard it was OK from a couple of REAL redneck types, but me being the paranoid sort thought I would ask first..

Hey I resemble that remark  :lol:
I did it many years ago but would not do it again after I found out what some of the harmful fumes are coming from the pot
Lungs already damaged enough from 35+ years of cigarettes
Been quit 4 years though
Mississippi TMA State Representative
Member #318  Valid until Jan 15, 2011
Hatchie Run Longrifles Member

Offline Loyalist Dave

  • TMA Forum Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 687
  • Total likes: 1
  • TMA Member: 800
  • Location: MD
(No subject)
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 01:06:33 PM »
Quote
antimony [exposure] causes headache, dizziness, and depression
source Wikipedia

Gee and I thought that was due to over exposure to my wife, not melting down a few lead plates from car batteries.   :shock:

Funny though that antimony, selenium, and cadmium are found in wheel weights too, AND both the modern ammo shooters as well as several BP websites advocate using wheel weights for projectile casting.  The ratios for the non-lead ingredients are about the same as in battery lead too.

LD
It's not what you think you know; it's what you can prove.

Offline the Black Spot

(No subject)
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2008, 01:36:06 PM »
besides, all the power is gone when the battery died and you can't get any extra boost in velocity! ....lame, i know....

Offline Bountyhunter

(No subject)
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2008, 09:05:07 AM »
You can get lead from old batteries by selling them for the core value and then taking the money and buying safe lead.  

Recyclers have closed systems with scrubbers where they can separate the heavy metals and catch the fumes.  It isnt worth the risk to breath those fumes.
“The will to survive is not as important as the will to prevail... the answer to criminal aggression is retaliation.” --Jeff Cooper.
NRA Life
Whittington Center Life