Lock identification

[ridjrunr]

I just picked up a couple of flintlock pistols. First question, one of the locks is marked on the backside of the plate,  L S that are in two interlocking squares. The pistols look like twins but one is .50 and one is .45. Both are stocked in curly maple. These appear to be better quality kit guns. Other notes; same tin nose cap on both, same trigger and guard, same shape to the stocks same entry thimble. Until I get pictures posted, does the L S ring a bell to anyone? They really look Pedersoli (the locks) but are not marked as such.
Pictures soon.

[ridjrunr]

.45 and .50

[ridjrunr]

a few more

[ridjrunr]

Does anyone recognize this kit? The pan shape and size is just like my Pedersoli .

[ridjrunr]

The back side of the other lock has an S with 1265 underneath it. Are these large silers?
Maybe they are not kits?

[RiverCat]

Sorry I can`t help ya ID em, but they`re nice looking pistols.

[Hank in WV]

My guess is your right about them being small siler locks. I'm thinking they are scratch built and not kits. Some pretty good looking handguns ya got.

[gunmaker]

good lookin pistols, an not fired much by look of frizzen.  I compared your lock to one a my small siler flint,  looks to be same lock...scratch built maybe.......Tom

[ridjrunr]

Thank you,could you tell me the length of the large or small siler lock plate please.
They both are unfired and still have cosmoline on the locks. And neither has sites,front or rear. The .45  appears to be coned at the muzzle.

[Hank in WV]

Lg= 5 5/16x 15/16
Sm=4 3/4x 7/8

[Hanshi]

Those are beautiful pistols and yes they are Siler locks.

[ridjrunr]

Thank you Hank, they appear to be small Silers. Can't wait to try them out, but I need to get some sites put on them both.

[trent/OH]

I gotta ask, just in case they were a bargain, how much did 2 great looking pistols cost you? Don't be bashful, I'm sitting down.

[ridjrunr]

Trent,yes I am bashful, I traded 2 laying hens and 1 duck at an estate sale (kind of). Both pistols need work, bad flash hole to pan alignment. One, the flash hole is above center and the lock is tipped up. The other has the flash hole on center but the lock is tipped up on it as well. Also one of the top jaw screws was bent to the point that I could not turn it out,so I cut that screw in half and ordered one this morning. However, I'll probably try fireing them just so I know I tried. All parts appear to be high quality ,for the fowl involved I'm not gonna complain. The only other booger is I missed an original 45-70 and pepper box.

[Uncle Russ]

 2 Hens a layin, I Duck a quackin, and a Partridge in a Pear tree.......

Ridj, old friend, you've had waaay too much Christmas.

But you do have a really nice set of Pistols.

Uncle Russ...