Lyman Investarms GPR flinter "kit"

[RobD]

you ain't steppin', pete, and i fully agree with all you've typed.

it will always come down to what you want, and that's a good thing.  tom watson's building me a half stock flintlock hawken, not because of the hawken name, but because it will have all the features i want in an early 19th century rifle for both function and looks.

while there probably was a short ball starter used in the 18th century, it ain't been "found", and allows free license to make of it whatever ya like.  subjective stuff, not objective.

carry on, pete.

[Bigsmoke]

while  on this thread, another thing that muddies the waters are the speakings of many of the self proclaimed "experts" who pronounce things PC or not PC.  And that goes right up to the NMLRA and their not allowing rear sights on a smoothbore match.  (It might have changed by now, but when I was going there, rear sights were taboo).  But, go to the Museum of the Fur Trade and look at the old trade guns they have there.  When I visited last I bet fully 1/3 of the guns there had some sort of rear sight.  But rear sights are not PC.  To which I say, "BS!"
Anyway, good stuff.  And yes, pistol grip stocks on long guns made in America in the day are HC.  Even the Hawken Brothers made them.
John

[RobD]

right on brother john, right on sir!!!

[Uncle Russ]

while  on this thread, another thing that muddies the waters are the speakings of many of the self proclaimed "experts" who pronounce things PC or not PC.  And that goes right up to the NMLRA and their not allowing rear sights on a smoothbore match.  (It might have changed by now, but when I was going there, rear sights were taboo).  But, go to the Museum of the Fur Trade and look at the old trade guns they have there.  When I visited last I bet fully 1/3 of the guns there had some sort of rear sight.  But rear sights are not PC.  To which I say, "BS!"
Anyway, good stuff.  And yes, pistol grip stocks on long guns made in America in the day are HC.  Even the Hawken Brothers made them.
John

Yep, that's exactly my take on PC, HC, and all the SME's (Subject Matter Experts).
It's all a matter of perspective.
We all have heard, and even recognize an eye witness to anything criminal is likely the best witness, likely very creditable, but still unreliable.
That phenomena is best described in the following cartoon.....whereas BOTH parties are right!
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Uncle Russ...

[Winter Hawk]

The Spanish breech has a piece that goes through it and screws into the side opposite the touch hole.  It is actually the bolster for a cap gun which is cut off at the barrel flat and threaded for the liner.  This piece is hollow and has a hole to the front lining up with the bore and becomes part of the powder chamber.  Unfortunately, it locks the patent breech to the barrel and must first be removed before you can unscrew the plug.

~WH~