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Author Topic: Smoothbore Options for Mountain Man  (Read 1366 times)

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Smoothbore Options for Mountain Man
« on: April 10, 2009, 09:43:32 AM »
There's the NW trade gun.  What about fowlers, fusil or other trade guns?  Any ideas appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2009, 09:51:23 AM »
SSE,... I think any of the guns you mentioned, would have been found in the fur fields,... if I remember correctly, Osborne Russell even carried a double barrel smoothie. :)
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 11:27:22 AM »
Or "smooth-rifles" even? Not if you want to enter events that forbid rear sights though.
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2009, 11:57:04 AM »
Yup. Ran into that last week at southeastern rendezvous. Shoot was for "smoothbore" and a shooter showed up with a 'smoothbore rifle' - which is what they call a smokepole if there is a rear sight on it.

Bottom line on the trappers is that they carried pretty much anything they could afford when they headed up into them thar hills.

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2009, 01:26:18 PM »
smoothrifle is firelock of RIFLE design with a smooth barrel....not just because of a rear sight...if you've ever been the MoFT in Chadron, you'll see lots of "trade guns" with rear sights-but they arent' smoothrifles...the whole "no rear sights on smoothbores/tradeguns" is an NMLRA "thing" and has no real bearing on historical fact
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 01:34:09 PM »
Quote from: "Mitch"
smoothrifle is firelock of RIFLE design with a smooth barrel....not just because of a rear sight...if you've ever been the MoFT in Chadron, you'll see lots of "trade guns" with rear sights-but they arent' smoothrifles...the whole "no rear sights on smoothbores/tradeguns" is an NMLRA "thing" and has no real bearing on historical fact

Over the years, I have came to that same exact conclusion. :rt th
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 01:40:11 PM »
I personally like the "English" Fowlers. Mine is a Pedersoli "Mortimer.

Yes they were out here in the fur trade.  See Hanson's book -"The Hawken Rifle: ITS PLACE IN HISTORY" Capt. 11 - THE GUN TRADE OF ST. LOUIS. You will see quite a # of these being sold in the 1830s.

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2009, 03:35:33 PM »
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smoothrifle is firelock of RIFLE design with a smooth barrel....not just because of a rear sight...if you've ever been the MoFT in Chadron, you'll see lots of "trade guns" with rear sights-but they arent' smoothrifles...the whole "no rear sights on smoothbores/tradeguns" is an NMLRA "thing" and has no real bearing on historical fact

they had to do something to keep the trade gun shooters from winning all the matches!  :lol:
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2009, 05:25:55 PM »
The best for the "plain, everyday and common" vote would be a NW gun, IMHO.

It's what I carried in my MM days...long ago.

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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2009, 08:12:58 PM »
I suspect we today have MANY more categories and subcategories of longarms than were ever mentioned in discussions round a fire on the plains, in the forest, or in a tavern a couple of centuries back. I can't begin to keep even the Pennsylvania schools straight in my head. Some of you can, but my supply of little gray cells is a little challenged.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2009, 09:49:21 PM »
I go along with the others here. I feel that the MM carried the best arms they could afford .The rear sight rule is just that, a rule. has nothing to do with historical accy.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2009, 10:32:16 AM »
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I personally like the "English" Fowlers. Mine is a Pedersoli "Mortimer
Puff - I also hear a lot of people talk down the English fowler as not being as artistically appealing as the fusil...
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2009, 10:56:42 AM »
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not being as artistically appealing ? Is that a fancy phrase for sayin my English Fowler is ugly?...Them's fightin words.. :lol:
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2009, 01:07:19 PM »
What exactly is an English Fowler
I thought I had one: Maybe mine is an English shotgun
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2009, 01:48:42 PM »
Jerry! Is it English? Is it a gun? Do you shoot shot? Well, then...

But, do you hunt fowl? Now then...

All semantics, all regional, all mule muffins. Call it Sally or Betsy or Slim. Maybe that's why guns get names.
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