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Author Topic: FFg in a small bore ?  (Read 2256 times)

Offline nessy357

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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2009, 02:53:29 PM »
Which model CVA? Not one of those horrid inline abominations I hope.

What's an inline ? ;)
It's a CVA "Plainsman" I wouls say it's the forerunner to the Traditions "Deerslayer" possibly a heavier barrel.I would hazard a guess that it had  never been shot.

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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2009, 06:03:14 PM »
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What's an inline ? :roll eyes  :rotf
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2009, 09:45:02 AM »
Yep, I love my inline Jeep 4.0L
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2009, 06:14:10 PM »
You might find that Swiss FFg is fast enuff to suit well in a small bore. Works fine for me in my .40 flint Pedersoli.
At the same grain size, Swiss is a faster powder than is GOEX.
if the ball is not rammed close on the powder. . .frequently cause the barrel to burst

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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2009, 07:05:27 PM »
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What's an inline ? ;)
Cheers Bob.

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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2009, 07:55:39 PM »
Yoy guys got to get out more , I seen one of the inlines with the "sympathetic stock" didn't get too close to it, poor guy looked like he was ashamed of it  :oops:

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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2009, 08:03:48 PM »
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Yoy guys got to get out more , I seen one of the inlines with the "sympathetic stock" didn't get too close to it, poor guy looked like he was ashamed of it  :oops:

Cheers Bob.

As well he should be.

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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2009, 11:00:11 AM »
I am with Captchee on the Alexander article--while I buy most of his argument against priming horns [and for day horns, etc] I think his dates are off a bit.  They had different grades [sieve size ranges] of powder way back.  However, ffg or its equivalent was called "rifle powder" into modern times.  It is comparatively recently that fffg has taken over among modern shooters for most rifle bores.  In the 18th cent, which alot of us are interested in as reenactors, the standard or common powder for rifles and muskets was like a mixture of what today we'd call fg and ffg according to some accounts.  It was used for loads and priming. I think DuPont had standardized the f series grades in the early 19th cent?  But ffg was still "rifle powder".   It works in all calibers, but may not give the best performance [in modern standards] in all rifles...
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2009, 05:57:55 PM »
I converted to 3F in my .50 T-C Hawken after I ran through two pounds of 2F trying to get the best accuracy I could.   I ran out of powder at a rondy and could only get 3F.   I filled my horn, went to the sight-in range and proceeded to find a load that far surpassed any I got with 2F after only five shots.  It made me a believer.  It's also the load I shoot to this day, 50 gr. 2F, .490" rb,  .015" cotton patch greased with 1K Wonder Lube, Lard, or Crisco.  

That's also when I began to understand that rifles tend toward individuality and really should have a load developed for each one.

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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2009, 09:16:17 AM »
May I respectfully note that there is of course a difference in burning speed between FFg and FFFg;  there is also a considerable difference in speed between Swiss and GOEX of the same granulation.
IMHO it might be nice to note the brand of powder involved, as well as the number of "F's"
if the ball is not rammed close on the powder. . .frequently cause the barrel to burst

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« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2009, 03:31:00 PM »
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May I respectfully note that there is of course a difference in burning speed between FFg and FFFg;  there is also a considerable difference in speed between Swiss and GOEX of the same granulation.
IMHO it might be nice to note the brand of powder involved, as well as the number of "F's"

Good point.  As the only powder available to me is Goex, that's what I shoot.

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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2009, 08:42:06 PM »
Regardless of all the theoretical and mathematical data available, whatever works best for each person is best for them no matter how odd or improbable it may seem to the rest of us.

Just remember that no mater how you crunch the numbers a bumble bee CAN NOT fly.  And yet there they are every summer doing just that.

Never get trapped by preconceptions or the philosophy of "Don't confuse me with facts my mind is made up." :bl th up  :hey-hey  :toast  :toast
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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2009, 09:56:09 PM »
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Regardless of all the theoretical and mathematical data available, whatever works best for each person is best for them no matter how odd or improbable it may seem to the rest of us.

Just remember that no mater how you crunch the numbers a bumble bee CAN NOT fly.  And yet there they are every summer doing just that.

Never get trapped by preconceptions or the philosophy of "Don't confuse me with facts my mind is made up." :bl th up  :hey-hey  :toast  :toast

That reminds me of a sign a colleague of mine put up about twenty-some years ago, which read, "Those who say something can't be done are usually interrupted by those doing it."
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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2009, 10:45:25 AM »
Don't like the valve on my brass priming widgit, have to clean it out daily to keep from leaking. Don't like leaky powder containers around my flintlock & uncomfortable with strongly made brass powder containers (very bad if go boom). Decided I'd make me an Authentic Priming Horn. After some study, including looking at photos of "priming horns" with measure & pick attached, decided I already have an authentic priming horn. It is about 12" long & contains, from time to time, either FFg or FFFg modern du Pont or Swiss. Not as fast as NullB but guess if I want fast I'll bring my .22 Yeah, I do well agree with above posts.
if the ball is not rammed close on the powder. . .frequently cause the barrel to burst

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« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2009, 03:06:45 PM »
Pics James? :?
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